Classical Mechanics: Coriolis Effect Problem

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The discussion focuses on calculating the Coriolis force acting on a bird flying at 60° N latitude. The Coriolis force formula is clarified as F = -2mw∧v, emphasizing the need for the negative sign. The user is guided to correctly define the angular velocity vector, which has both y and z components, while the bird's velocity vector only has an x component. Confusion arises regarding the cross product and the presence of y' and z' in the calculations. The conversation concludes with a supportive tone, encouraging further engagement in the forum.
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Homework Statement


A bird of mass 2 kg is flying at 10 m/s in latitude of 60° N, heading due East. Find the horizontal and vertical components of the Coriolis force acting on it.

Homework Equations


The Coriolis Force, F = 2mwv. Where ∧ shows the cross product between angular frequency vector, w, and change in the position vector, v.

Θ will be the co-latitude -- that is, 90°- 60° = 30°.

The Attempt at a Solution


I started by deciding that my coordinates would be oriented so that x points East, y points North, and z points straight up (away from the earth). Thus, I believe, w = {wcosΘ, 0, 0} since the bird flies only East.

So taking the Cross product with v = {x' , y' , z'} (where ' indicates the change in position), I receive the following vector {0 , -z'cosΘ , y'cosθ}. Now, I've shown the product vector without the coefficients, because my confusion arises at the presence of the y' and z's. Exactly what am I to do about them?

It's one of those problems where I can't tell if I'm missing something terribly basic, or having been working under a more general misapprehension. I'd very much appreciate any help!

p.s. This is my first post in the forum, and so I'm sure I've broken a plethora of the rules/etiquettes for which you must forgive me.

p.p.s. This is not a homework problem, just a kind of review (which makes the fact that I'm struggling with it so much more embarrassing), so don't feel ashamed at helping me cheat!
 
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Eyedbump said:

Homework Statement


A bird of mass 2 kg is flying at 10 m/s in latitude of 60° N, heading due East. Find the horizontal and vertical components of the Coriolis force acting on it.

Homework Equations


The Coriolis Force, F = 2mwv. Where ∧ shows the cross product between angular frequency vector, w, and change in the position vector, v.
You miss a minus sign. The Coriolis force is F = -2mwv.

Eyedbump said:
Θ will be the co-latitude -- that is, 90°- 60° = 30°.

The Attempt at a Solution


I started by deciding that my coordinates would be oriented so that x points East, y points North, and z points straight up (away from the earth). Thus, I believe, w = {wcosΘ, 0, 0} since the bird flies only East.

The angular velocity is a vector parallel to the axis of rotation of Earth and pointing upward. In your coordinate system it has both y and z components, and zero x component.

Eyedbump said:
So taking the Cross product with v = {x' , y' , z'} (where ' indicates the change in position), I receive the following vector {0 , -z'cosΘ , y'cosθ}. Now, I've shown the product vector without the coefficients, because my confusion arises at the presence of the y' and z's. Exactly what am I to do about them?

The velocity vector is (10, 0,0) as it has only East (x) component.
 
ehild said:
Welcome to PF!You miss a minus sign. The Coriolis force is F = -2mwv.
The angular velocity is a vector parallel to the axis of rotation of Earth and pointing upward. In your coordinate system it has both y and z components, and zero x component.
The velocity vector is (10, 0,0) as it has only East (x) component.

Oh my god. Thank you so much!
 
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