Classical mechanics ~ Potential energy and periodic movement

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The discussion revolves around a particle's potential energy described by the function U(x) = A*[ x^(-2) - x^(-1) ], with the goal of understanding the energy required to transition the particle from periodic movement to unlimited movement. The context is classical mechanics, specifically focusing on potential energy and equilibrium points.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to find balance points by setting the derivative of the potential energy function to zero, noting only one root exists. They express confusion about the expectation of multiple balance points and seek clarification on their reasoning.
  • Participants question the nature of the equilibrium point and the conditions under which the particle can escape the potential well.
  • There is a discussion about the graphical representation of the potential energy and the implications of energy levels on the particle's movement.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's reasoning and providing guidance on how to visualize the potential well. Some have offered insights into the conditions for the particle's movement and the implications of energy levels, while the original poster is seeking further clarification on their understanding of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There are references to specific graphical representations that illustrate the potential energy function and the expected behavior of the particle. The original poster's assumptions about the number of balance points and the energy required for unlimited movement are under scrutiny, indicating a need for deeper exploration of the potential energy landscape.

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Hey all,

suppose there's a particle with Potential Energy : U(x) = A*[ x^(-2) - x^(-1) ] , where A is a constant.

I'm supposed to find the energy required to make the particle go from periodic movement to unlimited movement.

First thing I did was U '(x) = 0 to find the balance points, now the problem is that there's only one root to the function, which means there's only one balance point at x=2 (stable).

I thought I was going to find two or more balance points to determine the energy that divides the movements.

It's my first time posting here so I hope I'm making myself clear, but can someone explain me where I'm wrong ?
 
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Hi rmfw, welcome to PF.

There are some rules here in the Forums, how to post your question. Read https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=686781, please.

That particle moves in a potential well, how does it look like? Make a sketch. Why do you think there should be more balance points? What is that equilibrium point, minimum or maximum? At what energy is the particle free to go to infinity and not confined into the well? ehild
 
Hi, on the first picture is the graph I got. On the second picture is the graph of what I expected. I know that if the particle was trapped in the potential well (picture 2) , with an energy of E>k the particle would go into unlimited movement.

Now back to the first picture, if someone questions me what's the energy required to change the movement of the particle from periodic to unlimited, is the right answer E=0 ?

EDIT: in the second picture both maximums are supposed to be at the same height.
 

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rmfw said:
Hi, on the first picture is the graph I got. On the second picture is the graph of what I expected. I know that if the particle was trapped in the potential well (picture 2) , with an energy of E>k the particle would go into unlimited movement.

Now back to the first picture, if someone questions me what's the energy required to change the movement of the particle from periodic to unlimited, is the right answer E=0 ?

EDIT: in the second picture both maximums are supposed to be at the same height.

Your first picture is almost right: Assuming A>0, the potential increases to infinity if x -->0.
The potential has got a negative minimum value, and tends to 0 if x -->∞. When the energy of the particle is negative, Emin<E<0, the particle is confined in the potential well. Your answer is correct, if E=0 the movement of the particle becomes unlimited, it can go to positive infinity.

The second picture is not relevant to the problem.

ehild
 

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