Classifying a First Order Differential Equation: Separable or Not?

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The discussion revolves around classifying a first-order differential equation of the form x(dy/dx) = ye^(x/y) - x. Participants are exploring whether the equation is separable or not.

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  • One participant attempts to manipulate the equation by dividing both sides by x and substituting variables, leading to a form that appears separable. However, they express uncertainty about integrating the right-hand side. Another participant questions how to integrate without knowing the function u(x). There is also a suggestion to use a different substitution.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different substitutions and questioning the integrability of the resulting expressions. There is a recognition that the classification of the differential equation is the primary goal, with some participants asserting that it is separable despite the challenges in integration.

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Participants note the unusual nature of the integral involved and suggest the possibility of a typo in the textbook, indicating a potential mismatch between the problem's complexity and the expected level of difficulty for the class.

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Homework Statement



[tex]x\frac{dy}{dx} = ye^{\frac{x}{y}} - x[/tex]

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If you divide both sides by x, and substitute u = y/x and y' = u'x + u, we get

[tex]u'x =ue^{\frac{1}{u}} - u - 1[/tex].

This is seperable, but how the heck do you integrate the RHS? Or could we just say, like what we do in linear DE's, that

(ux)' = e^(1/u) - 1, and then integrate both sides? Although unusual, is that correct?
 
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How would you integrate e^(1/u)-1 dx without knowing u(x)?!

Try the substitution u(x)=x/y instead.
 
Still nonelementary. I think there must be a typo in the book because an integral like that is unusual for this class. Heck, maybe it isn't a typo at all because the book is just asking us to classify said differential equation.
 
Hmmm. yes not easily integrated, but since all you're asked to do is classify the DE, its clearly separable.
 

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