Clay Court vs. Other Tennis Courts - What's the Difference?

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The discussion centers around the differences between clay courts and other types of tennis courts, particularly in relation to how these differences affect player performance and ball behavior. Participants explore the physics involved in ball dynamics on various surfaces, including bounce characteristics and the impact of spin.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the main difference lies in how the ball bounces and skids on different surfaces.
  • There is a discussion about the difficulty players may have in adapting to specific court surfaces, with some arguing it relates more to the match between surface characteristics and player skills.
  • One participant notes that older USA clay courts were faster than modern clay courts, which tend to slow the ball down more.
  • Another point raised is that grass courts are the fastest, while clay courts may not be suitable for attacking players due to their slower nature.
  • Participants discuss the effects of spin on ball behavior, with clay courts allowing for more effective use of backspin compared to topspin.
  • There is mention of the coefficient of restitution, indicating that different surfaces retain varying amounts of kinetic energy during bounces, affecting ball speed and height.

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Participants express multiple competing views regarding the impact of court surfaces on player performance and the physics of ball dynamics. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus reached on the implications of these differences.

Contextual Notes

Some statements depend on specific definitions of court types and player styles, and there are unresolved aspects regarding the extent to which players can adapt to different surfaces.

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Hi all,

I am now watching the Roland Garros, but I don't play tenis, but table tennis. So I do not understand what is the big different between clay court and other courts that make advantages for certain players. May it have something to do with physics?
Thanks
 
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It is all about how the ball bounces/skids on the different surfaces.
 
So is it that difficult to get accustomed to certain conditions/surfaces that just one or two players win a particular trophy every year?
 
update - I was thinking of the older style USA clay courts which were faster than the clay courts of today. As mentioned in the Wiki article a standard "clay" court slow the ball down more. Hard courts have a range of speed, and grass courts are the fastest. Grass courts also detiorates during a tournament making the ball bounce more randomly.
 
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neutrino said:
So is it that difficult to get accustomed to certain conditions/surfaces that just one or two players win a particular trophy every year?
It is more about the surface matching the player's skills than "getting used to" it.
...meaning that the tennis ball is slowed down less when it bounces off a clay surface...
Slowed-down less when the ball has backspin - sped-up less when the ball has topspin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_court
 
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russ_watters said:
Sped-up less when the ball has topspin.
Unlike table tennis, I'm not sure if it's even possible to generate enough top spin so that the bottom surface of the tennis ball is moving backwards, and I've never seen that much top spin used during a normal match. A tennis ball is always slowed down when it bounces, but slow more when it has back spin than when it has top spin. Generally the spin all the ball affects it's path through the air, which can cause it to kick up if the path curves downards enough, and cause the ball to kick sideways if there's sidespin on the ball.

In table tennis where the racket surface has a coefficient of dynamic friction well over 5, and a very elastic reversal of spin and speed, extreme top spin can be generated that will speed up the ball when it bounces. I've never seen this in a tennis match (with the possible exception of a high top spin lob).
 
Clay=more spin
Grass=more pace

It is like cricket with moist pitches gioving good seam and spin for breaking. Like than in clay, the ball can produce a more effective game for heavy spinners...
 
As I have just read in some R. Garros articles, they claim that clay courts slow down the ball more than other courts so it is not suitalbe for playes who have attacking style. That is because the clay surface is softer than others. The harder the court, the faster the ball bounces. Soft surface like clay plays a damp role when the ball hits.
French Mauresmo failed in R.G partly because of that reason they said.
 
Yes, it basically why Federer cannot win French...
 
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It's also to do with the coefficient of restitution between the ball and the surface. The higher the coeff, the more kinetic energy is retained in the bounce and the faste / higher the ball will bounce. It's a measure of the loss of energy to heat in the surface and ball.

Glen
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