Closest Approach of Alpha Particle & Gold Nucleus

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The discussion revolves around the closest approach of an alpha particle to a gold nucleus in the context of Rutherford's scattering experiments. The problem involves calculating the distance of closest approach based on the initial kinetic energy of the alpha particle and the charges of both the alpha particle and the gold nucleus.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to set up an equation relating electric potential energy and kinetic energy but expresses uncertainty about the resulting radius and how to incorporate the charges of both particles. Other participants clarify the formula for electrical potential energy and question the need to convert kinetic energy into appropriate units.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the relationship between kinetic energy and potential energy. Some guidance has been offered regarding unit conversion and the treatment of charges, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to solving for the distance of closest approach.

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Participants are navigating the implications of charge values and unit conversions, which may affect their calculations. There is a focus on ensuring that the physical principles are applied correctly without resolving the problem completely.

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In Rutherford's scattering experiments, alpha particles (charge = +2e) were fired at a gold foil. Consider an alpha particle with an initial kinetic energy K heading directly for the nucleus of a gold atom (charge = +79e). The alpha particle will come to rest when all its initial kinetic energy has been converted to electrical potential energy. Find the distance of closest approach between the alpha particle and the gold nucleus for the case K = 3.4 MeV.

I first set up the equation as -ke^2/r=1/2mv^2, with the first part of the equation as the electric potential energy and the second part as the initial kinetic energy set equal to each other. then I substituted the value given for K for the 1/2 mv^2 part. however when I solved, I got the radius and I am pretty sure that that value does not correspond to the distance between the two charges. also, I am not sure how to factor in the two charges - should I add them together and use that number?
 
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Electrical potential energy is k.q1.q2/r.
 
oh...okay...so would I still be solving for r, even though that's supposed to be the radius or is there another equation that I am forgetting?
 
oh...okay...so would I still be solving for r, even though that's supposed to be the radius or is there another equation that I am forgetting?
Yes, you are solving for r. Are you remembering to convert your kinetic energy into Joules? (check the units)
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am not sure how to factor in the two charges - should I add them together and use that number?
If you have a charge of +79e, that means 79*(1.602x10^-19 C).
 

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