Coefficient of Friction Needed?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to forces acting on a skier moving at constant velocity. The original poster is trying to determine the horizontal component of the force required to maintain this motion, given that the coefficient of friction is not provided.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze the forces involved, noting that without the coefficient of friction, a solution cannot be reached. They question whether the surface is frictionless based on the problem's wording.

Discussion Status

Participants acknowledge the lack of sufficient information in the problem statement. Some suggest that the implied coefficient of friction could be low, while others express skepticism about the exam's clarity.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted absence of the coefficient of friction in the problem, which is critical for solving it. The context of the NYS Regents Physics exam is also mentioned, implying potential issues with the problem's formulation.

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Homework Statement


I was reviewing some questions from the NYS Regents Physics exam and came across this question, which I could not answer. Here's the question ...

An 80-kg skier slides on waxed skis along a horizontal surface of snow at constant velocity while pushing with his poles. What is the horizontal component of the force pushing him forward?

Homework Equations



In the horiztonal direction ...

Sum of Forces = mass x acceleration = 0 (constant velocity, therefore a=0)
Sum of Forces = Applied Force - Friction Force = 0

Applied Force = Friction Force
where, Friction Force = coefficient of Friction x Normal Force

Normal Force = m x g = 80kg * 9.81 m/s^2 = 784.8 N


The Attempt at a Solution



It seems I cannot determine a solution unless I know what the coefficient of friction is (which was not given in the problem statement). Am I missing something here?

It seems that it is implied that the surface is frictionless, in which case there is no need to apply a force to keep moving at a constant velocity, yet the answer key states that 40N of force are required. If this is indeed the answer, then a coefficient of friction of 0.05 is implied.

Thanks,

Jim
 
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Yes, seems information given in question is insufficient.
 
Hi there,

From the information you gave in this problem, there is really an information missing. In my understanding also, the idea of the wax on the skis reduces the friction coefficient to a minimum.

Then again, [tex]\mu = 0.05[/tex] is not a very big coefficient, which could definitely be right.
 
For the Regents exam... somehow I'm not too surprised :-/
 

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