Coefficient of friction-Puck travelling up an incline

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The problem involves a hockey puck moving up an incline and aims to find the coefficient of friction between the puck and the incline. The puck travels a certain distance before sliding back down, and the initial conditions include its speed and the distance traveled.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of acceleration and the forces acting on the puck, including friction and gravitational components. There is an exploration of the equations used to derive the coefficient of friction, with some questioning the placement of terms and the accuracy of calculations.

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Some participants have offered corrections to the original poster's calculations, suggesting alternative formulations for the coefficient of friction. There is an ongoing examination of the mathematical steps involved, with no clear consensus reached yet.

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Participants note the potential for confusion in the calculations due to the placement of brackets and the complexity of the equations involved. The original poster expresses frustration with arriving at a different answer than expected.

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Coefficient of friction--Puck traveling up an incline

Homework Statement


A hockey puck is moving at 13m/s when it starts climbing an incline. It travels 7.1m from the base of the incline before sliding back down the slope, as shown

Find the coefficient of friction between the puck and the incline.

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The Attempt at a Solution


First find acceleration of the puck
Vf=final velocity=0
Vo=initial velocity= 13m/s
d=distance=7.1
Vf2=Vo2+2ad
-169=14.2a, a=11.9m/s2
[tex]\Sigma[/tex]Fx=max
Since the puck is accelerating up the incline, the Force of Friction and the Force Parallel will be in the same direction.

FF+F||=max

FF=([tex]\mu[/tex]) FN

FN=mgcos([tex]\theta[/tex])

F||=mgsin([tex]\theta[/tex])

([tex]\mu[/tex])mgcos([tex]\theta[/tex]) + mgsin([tex]\theta[/tex])= 11.9m

m([tex]\mu[/tex]gcos(36)+gsin36)=11.9m

Divide both sides by m, m cancels.

[tex]\mu[/tex]=11.9/9.8cos36+9.8sin36

[tex]\mu[/tex]=.87

The answer in the book is .77. Can you help me with where I am going wrong?

Thanks! =)
 
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Hi Thomas! :smile:

(have a mu: µ and a theta: θ and a sigma: ∑ and a degree: ° :wink:)
ThomasMagnus said:
m([tex]\mu[/tex]gcos(36)+gsin36)=11.9m

[tex]\mu[/tex]=11.9/9.8cos36+9.8sin36

Nooo :redface:
 


I have honestly tried this over and over and keep ending up here. Where am I going wrong?

Thanks!
 


I think I see the error.

mu=11.9-9.8sin36/(9.8cos36)
 


11.90140845070423-5.760295472466237/(7.928366544874485)

6.141112978237993/7.928366544874485
=.77!

Thanks!
 
ThomasMagnus said:
mu=11.9-9.8sin36/(9.8cos36)

hmm :rolleyes:

i think you'll get less confused in future if you get into the habit of putting brackets in the right places! :biggrin:
 


Sorry I was typing it On my iPod :)
 

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