Coefficients of a Taylor Series

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The problem involves finding the coefficients of the power series representation of the function f(x) = ln(10 - x). Participants are tasked with deriving the series from the derivative of the function.

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  • Participants discuss the differentiation of the function and the subsequent integration to find the original function's series. There are questions regarding the integration process and the manipulation of series terms.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, identifying errors in their reasoning, and clarifying integration steps. Some have expressed confusion about the integration of power series and the treatment of constants during integration.

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Homework Statement



The function f(x)=ln(10-x) is represented as a power series:
[tex]\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}a_{n}x^{n}[/tex]
Find the first few coefficients in the power series. Hint: First find the power series for the derivative of .


The Attempt at a Solution



Okay, start seems fairly straightforward:

[tex]f'(x)=\frac{1}{10-x}[/tex]

I factor out [tex]\frac{1}{10}[/tex] to arrive at:

[tex]f'(x)=\frac{1}{10}*\frac{1}{1-\frac{x}{10}}[/tex]

I then arrive at the geometric series:

[tex]\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}\frac{1}{10}*\frac{x^{n}}{10^{n}}[/tex]

Things begin to get a bit fuzzy for me from here. Next, I need to integrate WRT x to arrive at a solution for the original [tex]f(x)[/tex]. I believe this would result in:

[tex]\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}\frac{1}{10}*\frac{x^{2n}}{2(10^{n+1})}[/tex]

Am I correct to this point, and where do I go from here?
 
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lxman said:

Homework Statement



The function f(x)=ln(10-x) is represented as a power series:
[tex]\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}a_{n}x^{n}[/tex]
Find the first few coefficients in the power series. Hint: First find the power series for the derivative of .


The Attempt at a Solution



Okay, start seems fairly straightforward:

[tex]f'(x)=\frac{1}{10-x}[/tex]

I factor out [tex]\frac{1}{10}[/tex] to arrive at:

[tex]f'(x)=\frac{1}{10}*\frac{1}{1-\frac{x}{10}}[/tex]

I then arrive at the geometric series:

[tex]\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}\frac{1}{10}*\frac{x^{n}}{10^{n}}[/tex]

Good so far, but

Things begin to get a bit fuzzy for me from here. Next, I need to integrate WRT x to arrive at a solution for the original [tex]f(x)[/tex]. I believe this would result in:

[tex]\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}\frac{1}{10}*\frac{x^{2n}}{2(10^{n+1})}[/tex]

Am I correct to this point, and where do I go from here?

I'm quite lost at how you found this integral. The integral of

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{+\infty}{a_nx^n}[/tex]

is

[tex]C+\sum_{n=0}^{+\infty}{\frac{a_n}{n+1}x^{n+1}}[/tex]

So I don't quite see how you got that 2n in the exponent...
 
Thank you for the reply.

I'm quite lost at how you found this integral.

I am sure your misgivings are justified. I am viewing this as an integration problem. Therefore I conclude that I need to obtain:

[tex]\int\frac{1}{10}*\frac{x^{n}}{10^{n}}dx[/tex]

Using standard integration techniques I perform the following:

[tex]\frac{1}{10}\int\frac{x^{n}}{10^{n}}dx[/tex]
[tex]=\frac{1}{10}\ \frac{x^{2n}}{2(10^{n+1})}[/tex]

Have I erred at this step?
 
Okay, writing that out and looking back over it, I see an error.

[tex]x^{2}\ x^{n}[/tex] should be [tex]x^{2+n}[/tex].

Correcting that mistake, I now arrive at:

[tex]\sum^{+\infty}_{n=0}\frac{1}{10}\ \frac{x^{2+n}}{2(10^{n+1})}[/tex]

How about now?
 
No, that's also not good :frown: I'm confused at how you obtained that 2...

What is [tex]\int{x^ndx}[/tex]??
 
lxman said:
Thank you for the reply.
I am sure your misgivings are justified. I am viewing this as an integration problem. Therefore I conclude that I need to obtain:

[tex]\int\frac{1}{10}*\frac{x^{n}}{10^{n}}dx[/tex]

Using standard integration techniques I perform the following:

[tex]\frac{1}{10}\int\frac{x^{n}}{10^{n}}dx[/tex]
[tex]=\frac{1}{10}\ \frac{x^{2n}}{2(10^{n+1})}[/tex]

Have I erred at this step?

this last step is incorrect. first, i would factor out the [tex]\frac{1}{10^{n}}[/tex] so we get:

[tex]\frac{1}{10^{n+1}}\int{x^{n}}dx[/tex]

which integrates to:

[tex]\frac{1}{10^{n+1}}\frac{x^{n+1}}{n+1}+C[/tex]
 
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OK, now that I see it, I understand. I was taking n to be a constant and performing:

[tex]\int\ x\ dx[/tex]

which gives me:

[tex]\frac{x^{2}}{2}[/tex]

and then trying to lump the n's back in. My mistake there.

So, taking:

[tex]\frac{1}{10^{n+1}}\ \frac{x^{n+1}}{n+1}+C[/tex]

my first few terms would then be:

[tex]\frac{x}{10}+C[/tex]

[tex]\frac{x^{2}}{200}+C[/tex]

[tex]\frac{x^{3}}{3000}+C[/tex]

[tex]\frac{x^{4}}{40000}+C[/tex]

[tex]\frac{x^{5}}{500000}+C[/tex]

?
 
seems correct. you don't need a +C for each term though, you can combine them all to one constant.

cheers
 

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