Coffee Filter Lab: Finding n for the Drag Force

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The discussion revolves around a physics lab involving the drag force experienced by an object, specifically coffee filters, as it falls under the influence of gravity. The participants are exploring the relationship between the number of filters and terminal velocity, aiming to determine the exponent n in the drag force equation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to linearize the equation relating mass, drag force, and terminal velocity. Questions arise about the interpretation of variables, particularly the meaning of terminal velocity (Vt) and its relationship to the number of filters (N).

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights on how to approach the linearization of the equation, suggesting methods such as plotting logarithmic values. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables and the implications of the equations presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of different values of N on terminal velocity and the need for clarity on the variables involved in the equations. There is an acknowledgment of multiple unknowns in the problem, which adds complexity to the analysis.

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If an object of mass M falls under the influence of gravity and a drag force Fdrag, we may write Newton’s Second Law as
Ma = Mg - Fdrag
Where a is the acceleration of the object and Mg is the weight of the object. The drag force has the general form:
Fdrag = bv^n

Where the drag coefficient b is a constant that depends on the shape of the object, and v is the velocity of the object. As an object falls from rest the velocity increases until the drag force and the weight are equal in magnitude. The acceleration then becomes zero and we have the following relation:
Mg = b(Vt)^n

In this lab, the mass ( M) will be comprised of coffee filters. We can then express the total mass in terms of the number of filters (N) and the mass of one filter (m):
M=N(m)
Now we can express a relationship between the number of filters and the terminal velocity.
N(m)g = b (Vt)^n or
N α (Vt)^n

Our goal in this lab is to find n for the drag force.


I need help with my lab report. I need to linearize this equation and i don't know how to do it
 
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keicee said:
If an object of mass M falls under the influence of gravity and a drag force Fdrag, we may write Newton’s Second Law as
Ma = Mg - Fdrag
Where a is the acceleration of the object and Mg is the weight of the object. The drag force has the general form:
Fdrag = bv^n

Where the drag coefficient b is a constant that depends on the shape of the object, and v is the velocity of the object. As an object falls from rest the velocity increases until the drag force and the weight are equal in magnitude. The acceleration then becomes zero and we have the following relation:
Mg = b(Vt)^n

In this lab, the mass ( M) will be comprised of coffee filters. We can then express the total mass in terms of the number of filters (N) and the mass of one filter (m):
M=N(m)
Now we can express a relationship between the number of filters and the terminal velocity.
N(m)g = b (Vt)^n or
N α (Vt)^n

Our goal in this lab is to find n for the drag force.


I need help with my lab report. I need to linearize this equation and i don't know how to do it

Welcome to the PF.

Why do you think you need to "linearize" that equation?
 
to determine the value of n
 
keicee said:
to determine the value of n

What does the variable "t" represent? It doesn't seem like time enters into this problem...
 
Vt stands for terminal velocity
 
keicee said:
N(m)g = b (Vt)^n or
N α (Vt)^n
Should that read N = α (Vt)^n?
I need to linearize this equation and i don't know how to do it
As in, plot log(N) against Vt?
 
keicee said:
Our goal in this lab is to find n for the drag force.

One thing you already know is

[...] until the drag force and the weight are equal in magnitude.

I think you need to redo your equation from

Nmg = N α (Vt)n

to

Nmg = α (Vt)n.​

There is no need for that extra N on the right hand side of the equation. There is a single drag force involved (which is a function of the object's velocity). It is not separate drag forces being added together. So there is no need for that extra N. (I'm also assuming that the are different Vt values depending on the value of N; so Vt is a function of N.)

I assume that you have measured different Vt values for different N. Is that correct?

If so, you have two unknowns. Those unknowns are α and n. If you've taken at least two measurements, you can solve for the two unknowns. (Don't use linear algebra to solve for the two unknowns since the equations are not necessarily linear. But might be able to use substitution or some other method. [Graphing maybe, as haruspex suggested?])
 
You can linearize your equation: Mg = b(Vt)^n
by taking the logarithm both sides, maybe change it first to

M = b/g (Vt)^n
or
M = a (Vt)^n where a = b/g
 

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