Is Colorblindness a Barrier to Pursuing a Major in Physics?

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The discussion centers around the implications of colorblindness for pursuing a major in physics and related fields, including nuclear and particle physics. Participants explore concerns about potential barriers in academic and professional settings due to color vision deficiencies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to pursue a physics major despite being colorblind, questioning if this would be a problem.
  • Another participant argues that quantum physics, which deals with the nanoscopic world, does not rely on color, suggesting that color is not necessary for understanding the subject.
  • Concerns are raised about which subjects might be problematic for colorblind individuals, with questions about physics, chemistry, and engineering.
  • Some participants suggest consulting currently-employed engineers and faculty members for insights on the impact of colorblindness in the field.
  • Personal anecdotes are shared, including examples of colorblind individuals succeeding in various professions, such as computer science and surgery, indicating that colorblindness may not be a significant barrier in many fields.
  • One participant mentions that certain occupations require color vision for safety reasons, particularly in industries where color coding is critical, such as gas safety and tool identification.
  • Another participant shares a story about a colorblind chemistry professor who faced challenges in graduate school but ultimately succeeded, highlighting that while colorblindness can present obstacles, it is not insurmountable.
  • There is mention of specific tasks in chemistry and microbiology that may require color vision, while other tasks, like spectrophotometry, may not be affected.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether colorblindness is a barrier to pursuing a physics major. While some argue it is not a significant issue, others highlight specific fields and tasks where color vision may be necessary, indicating ongoing disagreement and uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that colorblindness encompasses a range of conditions, and the impact on academic and professional pursuits may vary based on the specific nature of the color vision deficiency. Some occupations may require color vision tests for safety, while others may not be affected.

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im colorblind but i have a plan go to a major in physics . its that a problem ? if i take a physics major ? and i want take a minor particle physics / quantum / nuclear physics / a material physics ? thanks
 
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Absolutely not.
Quantum physics is about the nanoscopic world, where there is nothing like color.
Using colors in course material is a luxury that is not necessary.
 
thanks for the answer :)
 
i want ask again like a nuclear physics its not a problem ?
 
what subject I should not take? like physics? or chemistry? engineer? I've got a plan I want to get physical but still afraid to go into this field because I am partial - color blind .
 
Ask currently-employed engineers! If anyone would know about any disadvantages of colorblindness in engineering or physical sciences, working-engineers should know. Also, ask faculty members of physics and engineering departments of colleges.
 
do you think this problem is color blind? if working in the field of physics?
 
My dad's cousin is color blind and he's a computer scientist. My dad is color blind and he's a surgeon. I think the only field where being color blind is a problem is the navy.
 
interhacker said:
My dad's cousin is color blind and he's a computer scientist. My dad is color blind and he's a surgeon. I think the only field where being color blind is a problem is the navy.

uh what about art?
 
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Delong said:
uh what about art?

blind-man-painting-2.jpg


The above painting was made by a person who was born blind and who has never been able to see.

http://www.odditycentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Esref-Armagan-painting.jpg

But ok, let's not derail the thread any further.

This link is about color blind Electrical Engineers: http://www.brighthubengineering.com...es-for-electricians-and-electrical-engineers/
 
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so its not a problem right ?
 
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stevxstev said:
so its not a problem right ?

Of course not, don't let something like this get in the way of your dreams and aspirations. Good luck.
 
  • #13
stevxstev said:
so its not a problem right ?

interhacker said:
Of course not, don't let something like this get in the way of your dreams and aspirations. Good luck.

Read the link in Microsoft's post.

"Color blind" is a generic term for a wide spectrum of conditions. At one end of the scale people can probably distinguish most colors "in real life" except that they perceive them differently from the majority. At the other end, they have no perception of "color" at all, only of brightness.

Some occupations and industries require color blindness tests for safety reasons. This may not be directly connected to the "science" aspect of the job, but simply because hazardous materials are indicated by color codes. For example if you can't tell the red/green color difference between flammable and inflammable gas cylinders and pipelines in your working environment, you are a safety hazard not only to yourself but to everybody else. http://www.boconline.co.uk/en/sheq/...nder-colours/industrial-cylinder-colours.html

In some industries hand tools etc are also color coded, to ensure similar looking tools are not mixed up and used in the wrong situation, where they could cause damage.

Of course you should have aspirations, but make sure they are realistic.
 
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AlephZero said:
For example if you can't tell the red/green color difference between flammable and inflammable gas cylinders and pipelines in your working environment, you are a safety hazard not only to yourself but to everybody else.
I think you meant non-flammable rather than inflammable. Flammable and inflammable mean the exact same thing: Easily ignited. Sometimes in- as a prefix means "not" (e.g., infinite, inconsiderate) but other times (e.g., inflammable, invaluable), it means almost the opposite of "not". One could say that the in- prefix is rather inconveniently inconsistent with regard to meaning.
 
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I think the physics is not very use gas, industrial gas and very rarely need physicists, because I wanted a little more to the theoretical or practical. what if I majored in math problem?
 
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stevxstev said:
I think the physics is not very use gas, industrial gas and very rarely need physicists, because I wanted a little more to the theoretical or practical. what if I majored in math problem?

Math is no problem.
 
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physics ? I am so love physics really
 
  • #18
D H said:
I think you meant non-flammable rather than inflammable.

True. :blushing:
 
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stevxstev,

micromass gave reference to an article about the use of color coding used in some engineering work. Some occupations require attention to colors and some do not. I suggested talking directly to currently-working engineers ( and now I suggest maybe other types of employed technology and scientific people).

An occupation which uses color coding can be expected not to use certain color-blind people. An occupation whose analyses or products are color-dependent would also be a bad fit for certain or most color-blind people. Someone wanting to perform color matching work for paints, pigments, or dyestuffs needs to be color-vision capable, not color-blind. A microbiology technician or scientist needs to be able to use color for cell staining. A chemist might need to be able to see a clear color change difference for an analytical procedure, and if colorblindness makes that color change or difference seem unclear, then the color-blind chemist cannot do this work satisfactorily. On the other hand, someone doing spectrophotometric work might be fine, since he is mainly interested in measuring absorbance or transmission over either a range of wavelengths or at specific wavelengths; and does not need to use color vision. The instrument will give the needed information.
 
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the answer its ? cannot ? in physics ?
 
  • #21
I can share a short story. I had a chemistry professor that is colorblind. He told us a story that when he was going into graduate school (in India), they even made the prospective graduate students take a physical exam. He failed the physical exam because of his colorblindness. The committee almost didn't let him into the graduate program for chemistry (colors can matter in chemistry). They eventually did, however. The main problem he has is using the spectrophotometer, he just needs to know the wavelengths of the colors.
 
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what is spectrophotometer ? so its not a problem ?
 
  • #23
Well, he got through the program obviously and received his PhD. So, yes it has been done. It's not optimal, but doable. It's probably a minor setback at best, since most PhD programs don't make their students take a physical examination I suppose.
 

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