Coloumbs Law when have 3 charges at unknown distances

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The discussion revolves around Coulomb's Law and the placement of a proton in the vicinity of two fixed charges, specifically a positive charge and a negative charge. The original poster seeks to determine the location where the net force on the proton would be zero, given the charges' positions and magnitudes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the forces acting on a proton placed between two charges but expresses confusion regarding the correct interpretation of the unit positive charge and the distances involved. Some participants suggest creating a force diagram to visualize the forces acting on the proton.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the conditions under which the net force on the proton can be zero. There is a suggestion to consider points outside the region between the two charges, indicating a productive direction in the discussion. However, there is no explicit consensus on the exact placement of the proton or the distances involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of determining the placement of the proton without specific distance values provided in the problem statement. There is also a question regarding the definition of a unit positive charge, which adds to the complexity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


I have a question that I can't figure out.

Question is
"Two charges are fixed in location: charge q1 = +8e is located at the origin and charge q2 = -2e is located on the x-axis at x = L. At what point (other than infinitely away) can a proton (a unit positive charge e) be placed so that it has net zero force acting on it"

Homework Equations


F = (kq1q2)/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I have got that q1 is (8e x 1.602 x 10^-19C) = 1.282 x 10^-18C
and q 2 is (-2e x 1.602 x 10^-19C) = 3.204 x 10^-19C
k = 8.988 x 10^9Nm^2C^-2
Am assuming that a unit positive charge is 1C (although did originally think it could possibly be 1.602 x 10^-19C, the size of one proton, would that be correct?)

When pumping in these values into the formula, and rearranging the formula so F = 0N, this will obviously give a distance of 0 which would be incorrect, also not sure how the added proton fits in anywhere. Have spent a few hours trying to find another way but am a bit stuck. Thanks in advance for any help =)
 
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garypinkerton said:

Homework Statement


I have a question that I can't figure out.

Question is
"Two charges are fixed in location: charge q1 = +8e is located at the origin and charge q2 = -2e is located on the x-axis at x = L. At what point (other than infinitely away) can a proton (a unit positive charge e) be placed so that it has net zero force acting on it"

Homework Equations


F = (kq1q2)/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I have got that q1 is (8e x 1.602 x 10^-19C) = 1.282 x 10^-18C
and q 2 is (-2e x 1.602 x 10^-19C) = 3.204 x 10^-19C
k = 8.988 x 10^9Nm^2C^-2
Am assuming that a unit positive charge is 1C (although did originally think it could possibly be 1.602 x 10^-19C, the size of one proton, would that be correct?)

When pumping in these values into the formula, and rearranging the formula so F = 0N, this will obviously give a distance of 0 which would be incorrect, also not sure how the added proton fits in anywhere. Have spent a few hours trying to find another way but am a bit stuck. Thanks in advance for any help =)
one should make out a force diagram and see /calculate the resultant of the two forces and make it zero.
 
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drvrm said:
one should make out a force diagram and see /calculate the resultant of the two forces and make it zero.
Thanks for your reply. How would I go about that if I don't have distances?
 
Try and feel it :-
if you put a +ve unit charge IN BETWEEN 8e and -2e, then it the 8e would cause repulsion and -2e would cause attraction, plot it and you would get that this is not possible.

if you put a +ve unit charge on the line joining the two charges ( but not in b/w them ) then it is possible that you find two points on which the net force =0
 
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Sahil Kukreja said:
Try and feel it :-
if you put a +ve unit charge IN BETWEEN 8e and -2e, then it the 8e would cause repulsion and -2e would cause attraction, plot it and you would get that this is not possible.

if you put a +ve unit charge on the line joining the two charges ( but not in b/w them ) then it is possible that you find two points on which the net force =0
Arrrr yes! That would work perfectly, thanks for your time in helping =)
 

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