Combination of thin lens and concave mirror

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem with solving a physics question involving a thin converging lens and a concave spherical mirror. The question is incomplete and has missing information, which leads to confusion and incorrect answers. It is advised to double-check all given values and ensure they are being used correctly in the equations.
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Homework Statement
The figure below shows a thin converging lens for which the radii are R1 = 8.48 cm and R2 = -11.4 cm. The lens is in front of a concave spherical mirror of radius R = 6.07 cm. If its focal points F1 and F2 are 4.58 cm from the vertex of the lens: b) If the lens and mirror are 20.3 cm apart and an object is placed 8.00 cm to the left of the lens, determine the position of the final image relative to the lens (Positive values are to the left).
Relevant Equations
1/f = 1/do + 1/di
I created the following ray diagram to help me solve the problem:
PLQ and CAPA.jpg

Then I applied the mirror equation 3 separate times.
IMG_8003F46351DC-1.jpeg

However, the final image distance I got is wrong. I'm wondering if I'm mistaken in taking the last object distance to be negative. However I only have one more try to get this right so I really want to make sure I'm approaching it from the right angle. I thought the last image distance would be negative because it is distance behind the converging lens, and we are told in the question that distances to the left of the lens (in front) are positive. I really appreciate any help or pointers anyone can give. Thank you!
 
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nevermind I got it! Had to take the last obj. dist. as positive :-)
 
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physstudent189 said:
Homework Statement:: The figure below shows a thin converging lens for which the radii are R1 = 8.48 cm and R2 = -11.4 cm. The lens is in front of a concave spherical mirror of radius R = 6.07 cm. If its focal points F1 and F2 are 4.58 cm from the vertex of the lens: b) If the lens and mirror are 20.3 cm apart and an object is placed 8.00 cm to the left of the lens, determine the position of the final image relative to the lens (Positive values are to the left).
Hi. There are a number of problems with the question.

The refractive index of the lens is missing. This makes it impossible to find the focal length of the lens.

A concave spherical mirror has only 1 focal point, so saying
“If its focal points F1 and F2 are 4.58 cm from the vertex of the lens”
makes no sense.

The question is incomplete. It looks like part a) has been omitted. It is often useful or necessary to see the whole question.

In your answer to b) ① you appear to be using the wrong value (4.58cm) for the focal length of the lens.

Edit. I'd already answered before I saw your post #2 saying you have solved the problem. But I would be very interested to know the resolution of the problems listed above!
 
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What is a combination of thin lens and concave mirror?

A combination of thin lens and concave mirror is a setup where a thin lens is placed in front of a concave mirror. This setup is used to enhance the optical properties of both the lens and the mirror.

What is the purpose of using a combination of thin lens and concave mirror?

The purpose of using a combination of thin lens and concave mirror is to improve the focusing power and image quality. The lens helps to reduce spherical aberration and the mirror helps to correct for chromatic aberration.

What are the advantages of a combination of thin lens and concave mirror?

The combination of thin lens and concave mirror offers several advantages, including increased magnification, improved image clarity, and reduced aberrations. It also allows for a wider field of view and better light gathering capabilities.

How is the focal length of a combination of thin lens and concave mirror calculated?

The focal length of a combination of thin lens and concave mirror can be calculated by using the formula: 1/f = 1/f1 + 1/f2, where f is the focal length of the combination, f1 is the focal length of the lens, and f2 is the focal length of the concave mirror.

What are some practical applications of a combination of thin lens and concave mirror?

A combination of thin lens and concave mirror is commonly used in optical instruments such as telescopes and microscopes. It is also used in laser technology, medical imaging, and photography equipment. Additionally, it is used in the manufacturing of eyeglasses and contact lenses.

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