Combining data from replicated experiments?

In summary, the conversation discusses how to combine data from replicated experiments. The options are to either combine all data into one set and analyze it, or analyze each experiment individually and then combine the analyzed data. The speaker is unsure of the best approach and has been researching, but has not found a clear consensus. The experiment involves testing a compound's activity on CYP by measuring fluorescence, with triplicates for each experiment and three overall runs. The suggested approach is to combine all nine results and calculate the mean and standard error on the mean. However, it is also suggested to examine each set of triplicates separately to ensure reproducibility and potentially treat them as independent measurements. The need for a meta-analysis is discussed if the data is
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gravenewworld
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How do you go about combining data from replicated experiments?

Should you just combine everything into one big set of data and then analyze it, or do you analyze the data from each experiment, and then combine the analyzed data into one set of finalized data? I'm not too sure on what to do, and have been googling for some answers, but there seems to be no clear consensus I can find. Basically all I did was run an experiment where I tested X compound at only 1 concentration for CYP activity by measuring fluorescence. Each experiment I ran I had triplicates. I ran the experiment 3 times. So do I combine the 9 results or analyze the triplicates individually and somehow combine them? I've never had a stats class so am struggling a bit with biostats/data analysis.
 
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Each time you ran the experiment did you run it the same way? I mean was each triplicate ran identically, and each of the 3 times run identically too?
 
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Rooted said:
Each time you ran the experiment did you run it the same way? I mean was each triplicate ran identically, and each of the 3 times run identically too?

Yes and yes.
 
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I'm not familiar with the particular experiment - what kind of output did you get from each run, a single value or a histogram or something?
 
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Just a single value for fluorescence. A relative light unit.
 
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If it was me I would combine all 9, I think I've done something similar in the past and worked out that either way of combining the results actually gives the same final results and error, but I would do a mean, and standard error on the mean for the 9 results. The standard error on the mean reduces the error on the mean by a factor of sqrt N, where N is the number of readings.
 
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Alright thanks.
 
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Sometimes it's worth trying different types of analysis to see if they all converge on the same result. For example, you could examine all three sets of triplicates separately. If the variance between the experiments done on different days is similar to the variance within measurements take on the same day, that's good evidence that the experiment is reproducible and you can combine the measurements from the different days (and have a dataset of N=9). However, if you see that the measurements on different days are much less consistent than measurements done on the same day, you may want to use each set of triplicates as an independent measurement (and have a dataset of N=3).
 
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Ygggdrasil said:
Sometimes it's worth trying different types of analysis to see if they all converge on the same result. For example, you could examine all three sets of triplicates separately. If the variance between the experiments done on different days is similar to the variance within measurements take on the same day, that's good evidence that the experiment is reproducible and you can combine the measurements from the different days (and have a dataset of N=9). However, if you see that the measurements on different days are much less consistent than measurements done on the same day, you may want to use each set of triplicates as an independent measurement (and have a dataset of N=3).

So would this require a meta analysis in order to combine all of the data if I treated this as 3 independent measurements? 2 of the experiments seem to be close together while the 3rd one seems to be different. The assay was run from the same kit, the same conditions, just on different days.
 
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If the experiments were pretty much identical on different days, then you are probably justified in combining the data as a data set with N=9.

If there were potentially important differences between the days (for example if the assay involves cells and you grew up different batches of cells for the experiments on each day), it would make more sense to treat the the data from each day as an independent measurement, and calculate the average and standard deviation from the set of three averages obtained on different days.
 

1. How do you determine which data to combine from replicated experiments?

The data to combine from replicated experiments should be selected based on their similarity in experimental design, methods, and variables measured. This ensures that the combined data is comparable and can be analyzed together.

2. What is the purpose of combining data from replicated experiments?

The purpose of combining data from replicated experiments is to increase the sample size and improve the statistical power of the analysis. This allows for more reliable and accurate conclusions to be drawn from the data.

3. What are the potential challenges of combining data from replicated experiments?

Some potential challenges of combining data from replicated experiments include differences in experimental protocols, variations in data collection methods, and discrepancies in the quality of data. These can lead to difficulties in merging and analyzing the data.

4. How do you account for any differences between the replicated experiments when combining data?

To account for differences between replicated experiments, statistical methods such as meta-analysis can be used. This involves analyzing the combined data while considering the variations and heterogeneity between the experiments.

5. Are there any ethical concerns when combining data from replicated experiments?

Yes, there can be ethical concerns when combining data from replicated experiments, particularly if the studies involve human subjects. It is important to ensure that the data is collected and used in an ethical manner, with proper consent and protection of participants' rights and confidentiality.

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