Combining Inequalities: Finding the Solution Set for Quadratic Inequalities

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The discussion revolves around solving the quadratic inequality 4m² - 12m > 0 and understanding the conditions under which the solution set is derived. Participants explore the implications of algebraic manipulation and graphical interpretation in the context of inequalities.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the algebraic factorization of the inequality and the conditions for positivity of the factors. Questions arise regarding how to correctly interpret the solution set and the redundancy of certain conditions.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the conditions required for the solution set, with some participants clarifying the intersection of inequalities and the implications of combining conditions. Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the solution set as a union versus an intersection.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential for ambiguity in language when describing the solution set, highlighting the importance of precise terminology in mathematical discussions.

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I want to find value for m for which:

4m2 - 12m > 0

Say I do this algebraically:

4m(m-3) > 0

so m > 0 or m > 3

The answer however is 0 < m and m > 3, I know this as a fact as I have looked graphically.

So, my question is, when done algebraically, how do I get 0 < m instead of m > 0 ?
 
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hi t_n_p! :smile:
t_n_p said:
4m(m-3) > 0

so m > 0 or m > 3

nooo :redface:

if AB is positive, then either both or neither are positive …

in this case either m > 0 and m > 3 (ie m > 3), or m < 0 and m < 3 (ie m < 0) :wink:
 
ah ok, so you need to take into account the 2 conditions.

if A = 4m and B = m-3

i.e. condition 1)
A>0 & B>0 yields m>0 and m>3

but m>3 is the overriding (is there a better word to use?) condition

condition 2)
A<0 and B<0 yields m<0 and m<3

but m<0 is the overriding condition

so then I combine the conditions to yield m<0 and m>3

Ok, makes sense now, thanks!
 
Yes it's called the intersection of the two inequalities :smile:
When you require both inequalities to hold, you say m<0 AND m<3, which leaves the intersection of the two, m<0.
 
Another way to think of it is this.
If m > 0 AND m > 3, then any number m larger than 3 is automatically larger than 0, so saying m > 0 is redundant. Note however, that a number m that is positive is not necessarily larger than 3.
 
t_n_p said:
so then I combine the conditions to yield m<0 and m>3

As an aside, I would like to point out an awkwardness of language. The two following statements are different:
  • The solution set is the union of the set described by "m<0" or the set described by "m>3".
  • The solution set is described by the system of inequalities "m<0 and m>3"
Although the English phrase you used could be interpreted either way. (You surely meant the first one)
 

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