Combining Sums: Simplifying with Identical Exponents | Homework Example

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The discussion revolves around the topic of combining sums in the context of series with identical exponents. The original poster expresses confusion regarding how to manipulate the exponents in two given sums to achieve a common form.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the manipulation of indices in the sums to achieve identical exponents. Questions arise about the implications of changing the starting point of the sums and whether it affects the outcome.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the reasoning behind maintaining the starting point of the sums at zero, while others seek verification of these ideas. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the original poster's confusion.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of specific terms and conditions under which the sums are combined, as well as the nature of the functions involved. The original poster's reference to (x-c)^{\text{whatever}} terms is noted as a point of confusion, with some participants questioning the assumptions made regarding these terms.

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Homework Statement



I'm having some confusion about combining sums. Our goal when combining these sums is to have the,

[tex](x-c)^{\text{whatever}}[/tex]

term to be the same in both sums.

My confusion is better explained in an example. (see below)

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Let's say we have the following 2 sums and we want to simplify them into one sum,

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^{n}2^{n}nx^{n+1} + \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^{n}2^{n}nx^{n-1}[/tex]

As you can see the,

[tex](x-c)^{\text{whatever}}[/tex]

terms are not identical, one is (n+1) and the other is (n-1).

So if we wanted to make the two exponents identical for the first sum we would look as,

[tex]n \rightarrow n-1[/tex],

and plug in (n-1) where all the n's used to be in the first sum, and change the starting point of the sum to 1

Now for the second sum, we would look as,

[tex]n \rightarrow (n+1)[/tex],

and plug in (n+1) where all the n's used to be in the second sum,

***Here's where I get confused***

But my professor had mentioned to the class that this would not change the starting point of the sum to n= -1, it stays at n=0.

Why is that? Can someone please clarify?

Thanks again!
 
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Bump, still trying to figure this one out.
 
[tex] \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^{n}2^{n}nx^{n+1} + \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^{n}2^{n}nx^{n-1} =[/tex]

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^{n}2^{n}n\left(x^{n+1} + x^{n-1} \right) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^{n}2^{n}nx^{n+1}\left(x^{-2}+1 \right) = \left(x^{-2}+1 \right) \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^{n}2^{n}nx^{n+1}[/tex]

Dunno what else to do..
 
Inferior89 said:
[tex] \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^{n}2^{n}nx^{n+1} + \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^{n}2^{n}nx^{n-1} =[/tex]

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^{n}2^{n}n\left(x^{n+1} + x^{n-1} \right) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^{n}2^{n}nx^{n+1}\left(x^{-2}+1 \right) = \left(x^{-2}+1 \right) \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^{n}2^{n}nx^{n+1}[/tex]

Dunno what else to do..


This doesn't really answer the question I had in the OP.
 
Ok, then I don't know.

Btw I don't even see any [tex](x-c)^{\text{whatever}}[/tex] term in any of the sums unless you mean that c = 0. And I made it into one sum with one [tex]x^{\text{whatever}}[/tex] where whatever is a function of n.
 
Ok. I think the reason it stays at zero is because when you replace n with n+1 and plugin n = -1 for the first term the term will be zero so it doesn't matter if you start your sum at 0 or -1, you will still get the same result.
 
Inferior89 said:
Ok. I think the reason it stays at zero is because when you replace n with n+1 and plugin n = -1 for the first term the term will be zero so it doesn't matter if you start your sum at 0 or -1, you will still get the same result.

Can anyone else verify this? Is this actually why, or is it just a coincidence?
 
Me again! ;)

Well it works with all sums where the first term is zero which they are if you have a sum starting at n=0 of n*f(n,x) and f(n,x) is 'nice' in n=0.
 

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