Compact Subsets of R .... Sohrab, Proposition 4.1.8 .... ....

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The discussion revolves around understanding the proof of Proposition 4.1.8 from Houshang H. Sohrab's "Basic Real Analysis," specifically regarding the concept of compact subsets of R and the implications of limit points. Participants seek clarity on demonstrating that a specific open cover has no finite subcover, which is central to the proof.

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  • Peter questions how to rigorously demonstrate that the open cover ##\{ ( - \infty, \xi - 1/n) \cup ( \xi + 1/n, \infty ) \}_{ n \in \mathbb{N} }## has no finite subcover.
  • PeroK emphasizes the importance of engaging directly with the material, suggesting that one cannot learn Real Analysis vicariously.
  • Peter expresses difficulty in starting the proof and mentions he is reflecting on similar theorems and proofs from other books for ideas.
  • A later reply suggests that any finite subcover must have a greatest ##n##, implying that the union cannot approach ##\xi## arbitrarily closely.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the proof strategy, and multiple approaches and levels of understanding are evident. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the rigorous demonstration of the open cover's properties.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the definition of a limit point and the context of compactness in R, but the discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps necessary for the proof.

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Question in respect of the proof that compact subsets of R are necessarily closed and bounded ... issue of an open cover with no finite subcover ...
I am reading Houshang H. Sohrab's book: "Basic Real Analysis" (Second Edition).

I am focused on Chapter 4: Topology of R and Continuity ... ...

I need help in order to fully understand the proof of Proposition 4.1.8 ...Proposition 4.1.8 and its proof read as follows:
Sohrab - Proposition 4.1.8 ... .png

In the above proof by Sohrab we read the following:

" ... ... If, to get a contradiction, we assume that ##\xi \notin K## is a limit point of ##K##, then the open cover ##\{ ( - \infty, \xi - 1/n ) \cup ( \xi + 1/n, \infty ) \}_{ n \in \mathbb{N} }## has no finite subcover ... ... "
My question is as follows:

How would we demonstrate rigorously that the open cover ##\{ ( - \infty, \xi - 1/n) \cup ( \xi + 1/n, \infty ) \}_{ n \in \mathbb{N} }## has no finite subcover ... ...?
Help will be appreciated ...

Peter
=======================================================================================It may help readers of the above post to have access to Sohrab's definition of a limit point ... so I am providing the relevant text ... as follows ...
Sohrab - Definition 2.2.11 ... Limit Point  ... .png

Hope that helps ...

Peter
 
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Summary: Question in respect of the proof that compact subsets of R are necessarily closed and bounded ... issue of an open cover with no finite subcover ...
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In the above proof by Sohrab we read the following:

" ... ... If, to get a contradiction, we assume that ##\xi \notin K## is a limit point of ##K##, then the open cover ##\{ ( - \infty, \xi - 1/n ) \cup ( \xi + 1/n, \infty ) \}_{ n \in \mathbb{N} }## has no finite subcover ... ... "
My question is as follows:

How would we demonstrate rigorously that the open cover ##\{ ( - \infty, \xi - 1/n) \cup ( \xi + 1/n, \infty ) \}_{ n \in \mathbb{N} }## has no finite subcover ... ...?

This should be in homework and you should be presenting your attempt at the solution. One thing you definitely can't learn vicariously is Real Analysis. You have to get stuck into these proofs yourself.
 
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Thanks for the reply PeroK ...

You write:

" ... ... One thing you definitely can't learn vicariously is Real Analysis. ... ... "

I agree ... but I couldn't get a meaningful start on the issue ...

I am still reflecting on the matter and reading other books' similar theorems and proofs to get some ideas ...

Peter
 
Math Amateur said:
Thanks for the reply PeroK ...

You write:

" ... ... One thing you definitely can't learn vicariously is Real Analysis. ... ... "

I agree ... but I couldn't get a meaningful start on the issue ...

I am still reflecting on the matter and reading other books' similar theorems and proofs to get some ideas ...

Peter

You need an idea or strategy for a proof like this. Then , you need to translate the idea into rigorous work.

My first thought was that any finite subcover must have a greatest ##n##, which means the union cannot get arbitrarily close to ##\xi##.
 
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