Comparing Derivatives: Solving for g'(x) and f'(x) with Two Given Points

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The problem involves comparing the derivatives of two differentiable functions, f(x) and g(x), based on their values at specific points. The discussion centers around inequalities and equalities involving the derivatives within the interval (2,4).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the application of the Mean Value Theorem and consider the functions h(x) = g(x) - 4f(x) and v(x) = 3g(x) - 4f(x) to analyze the behavior of the derivatives. Questions arise about how to prove certain conditions regarding the derivatives being zero or non-zero.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and discussing the implications of their findings. There is a suggestion that one of the conditions may be misleading, and some participants are working towards understanding the implications of their derived functions.

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There is an emphasis on the limited information provided by only two points, which raises questions about the validity of the comparisons being made. Participants are also considering the potential for counter-examples to clarify their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


Let ##f(x)## and ##g(x)## be two differentiable function in R and f(2)=8, g(2)=0, f(4)=10 and g(4)=8 then

A)##g'(x)>4f'(x) \forall \, x \, \in (2,4)##

B)##3g'(x)=4f'(x) \, \text{for at least one} \, x \, \in (2,4)##

C)##g(x)>f(x) \forall \, x \, \in (2,4)##

D)##g'(x)=4f'(x) \, \text{for at least one} \, x \, \in (2,4)##


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How am I to compare the derivatives with only two points? I really don't know where to start with this. Just a wild guess, do I need to apply the mean value theorem?
 
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Hi Pranav-Arora! :smile:

Hint: consider g - 4f and 3g - 4f :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Pranav-Arora! :smile:

Hint: consider g - 4f and 3g - 4f :wink:

I don't see how does it help. :confused:

Let ##h(x)=g(x)-4f(x)##. Then ##h(4)=h(2)=-32##. This suggests that h' is zero somewhere in (2,4). What should I do now?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
This suggests that h' is zero somewhere in (2,4).

yup! :smile:

and h' = g' - 4f' :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
yup! :smile:

and h' = g' - 4f' :wink:

Ah yes, then its D. Thank you tiny-tim! :smile:

Let v(x)=3g(x)-4f(x). How do I prove that v'(x) is never zero in (2,4)? :confused:
 
Pranav-Arora said:
ALet v(x)=3g(x)-4f(x). How do I prove that v'(x) is never zero in (2,4)? :confused:

B is just there to confuse you! :wink:

Anyway, you'd only need to show that it can be never-zero …

you should be able to sketch a counter-example. :smile:
 
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tiny-tim said:
B is just there to confuse you! :wink:

Anyway, you'd only need to show that it can be never-zero …

you should be able to sketch a counter-example. :smile:

Okay, I understand, thank you once again! :)
 

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