Comparison and Limit Comparison Tests for Convergence of Series

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of the series \(\sum^{\infty}_{n=1} \frac{e^{n}+n}{e^{2n}-n^{2}}\) using the Comparison Test or the Limit Comparison Test.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the limit of the ratio of the series terms and question the choice of comparison series. There is uncertainty about the appropriateness of the selected \(b_n\) and whether certain terms can be ignored in the limit process.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested specific forms for \(b_n\) and discussed the behavior of the series as \(n\) approaches infinity. There is ongoing exploration of suitable comparison series and the implications of the limit results.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the growth rates of exponential and polynomial terms in their analysis, and there is a focus on ensuring that the comparison series is appropriately chosen to facilitate convergence testing.

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Homework Statement



[tex]\sum[/tex][tex]^{\infty}_{n=1}[/tex] [tex]\frac{e^{n}+n}{e^{2n}-n^{2}}[/tex]

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I have to use either the Comparison Test or the Limit Comparison Test to show whether the series converges or diverges.

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]a_{n}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{e^{n}+n}{e^{2n}-n^{2}}[/tex]

[tex]b_{n}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{1}{e^{2n}}[/tex]

[tex]lim_{n->\infty}[/tex] [tex]\frac{e^{n}+n}{e^{2n}-n^{2}}[/tex] * [tex]e^{2n}[/tex]

Annnd I'm not sure what to do beyond this point. I'm not even sure I'm taking the right equation for b[tex]_{n}[/tex]... Is it okay to just ignore the [tex]e^{n}[/tex] in the numerator like that?
 
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You can do the limit formally like so

[tex]\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \frac{e^{3n} + e^{n}n}{e^{2n}-{n^2}}[/tex]

Divide the top and bottom by e2n

[tex]\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \frac{e^n+\frac{n}{e^n}}{1-\frac{n^2}{e^{2n}}}[/tex]

The numerator goes to infinity as n gets large, but the denominator goes to 1. So obviously the limit doesn't exist. Since the series for bn converges, you need to find something better.

The n and n2 in the limit don't grow nearly as fast as the exponentials, so when considering limit behavior, you might want to assume they're 0 to get a rough idea of what is going on. What can you divide [tex]\frac{e^n}{e^{2n}}[/tex] by to get that the limit as n goes to infinity still exists that might be a suitable candidate?
 
Hmm. Could I make it [tex]\frac{e^{n}}{ne^{2n}}[/tex]? Or [tex]\frac{ln(e^{n})}{ln(e^{2n})}[/tex]?
 
Try the limit comparison test with [tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{e^{n}-n}[/tex]
(this converges if you compare it with the geometric series by the way)
 
Thank you so much, everyone! zcd, is the [tex]b_{n}[/tex] you gave me less than [tex]\frac{1}{e^{n}}[/tex] though? It seems like it should be bigger because the denominator is less...
 
greenteacup said:
Thank you so much, everyone! zcd, is the [tex]b_{n}[/tex] you gave me less than [tex]\frac{1}{e^{n}}[/tex] though? It seems like it should be bigger because the denominator is less...

It is bigger. But it's less than 1/((e^n)/2), for example, since (e^n-n)>((e^n)/2) if n is large enough.
 

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