Comparisons of imporper integrals

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The discussion revolves around finding an upper bound for the improper integral of the function e^(-x^2) from 3 to infinity. Participants explore the concept of upper bounds in the context of improper integrals and compare the behavior of e^(-x^2) with another function, e^(-3x).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants question the meaning of "upper bound" in the context of the integral and whether it refers to the area under the curve. There is discussion about the convergence of the integral and comparisons between the two functions. Some participants attempt to clarify the implications of one function being less than another in terms of their integrals.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their calculations and reasoning. Some have proposed potential upper bounds based on their evaluations, while others are reflecting on their understanding of the problem and correcting earlier mistakes. There is no explicit consensus on the final upper bound yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can provide. There is an ongoing exploration of assumptions related to the behavior of the functions involved.

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Homework Statement


Find the upper bound for

\int (from 3 to infinity) e^(-x^2)

[hint: e^(-x^2) < e^(-3x) for x>3]


The Attempt at a Solution



I don't understand what they mean by "upper bound"
Are they asking for the upper bound for the area below e^(-x^2)
for 3<x<infinity ?

I knew that the function converges by graphing the function
y= e^(-x^2) and y=e^(-x) and comparing between those two,
but I'm not sure what the problem is asking for.
Pleas help me witht the start!
 
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If for two functions f,\,g you have f(x)&lt;g(x),\, \forall x&gt;x_0 what can you say about the integrals \int_{x_0}^\alpha f(x)\,d\,x,\,\int_{x_0}^\alpha g(x)\,d\,x?
 
That \int_{x_0}^\alpha f(x)\,d\,x,\ &lt; \int_{x_0}^\alpha g(x)\,d\,x and that if
\int_{x_0}^\alpha g(x)\,d\,x[/itex] converges, then \int_{x_0}^\alpha f(x)\,d\,x,\ converges as well?<br /> <br /> But how do I find upper bound knowing this?
 
I meant "integral of g(x)" for the first one and "integral for f(X)" for the second one. Sorry about the mess
 
Let f(x)=e^{-x^2},\,g(x)=e^{-3\,x}. Can you calculate
\int_3^\infty g(x)\,d\,x?
 
Yes, I calculaed it and
lim[b to infinity] (-1/3 e^(-5b)) (1/3)
so the first part goes to zero when you plug in infinity for b
therefore it convererges to 1/3

.. so.. is it right that since f(x) is smaller than g(x) it converges as well
and therefore the possible upper bound should be 1/3 (or smaller than 1/3) ?
 
I think the result is
\int_3^\infty e^{-3\,x}\,d\,x=\frac{1}{3}\,e^{-9} :smile:
And the answer is that one upper bound is \frac{1}{3}\,e^{-9}, i.e.

\int_3^\infty e^{-x^2}\,d\,x&lt;\frac{1}{3}\,e^{-9}
 
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ooops,, I guess I made a calculation mistake somewhere in the middle, I'll figure it out what I did wrong. and THANK YOU for your help!
 
Your are faster in typing! :smile:
The result I posted it's the correct one, and one upper bound is \frac{1}{3}\,e^{-9}, or every other number bigger than that, not smaller!

Glad I helped :smile:
 
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I noticed that you meant 1/3 e^(-9)
:) Thanks again!
 

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