Compensating for Gravity in Archery: Finding the Correct Aim Point

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The problem involves an archer aiming at a target 39.0 m away while accounting for the effect of gravity on the arrow shot horizontally at a velocity of 86.0 m/s. Participants are discussing how to determine the correct aim point above the bull's-eye to compensate for gravitational drop.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are sharing their attempts to solve the problem, with one stating a result of 2.01 m and another later arriving at 1.007 m. There are questions about the methods used to arrive at these answers, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the formulas applicable to the situation.

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There is an ongoing exchange of methods and reasoning, with some participants suggesting sharing approaches to enhance understanding. One participant has outlined a detailed method involving calculations of time of flight and trigonometric relationships, while others are still trying to clarify their own processes.

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Some participants mention confusion regarding the formulas and calculations, indicating a need for clearer understanding of the underlying physics concepts. There is also a sense of varying levels of confidence in the solutions presented.

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Homework Statement




An archer stands 39.0 m from the target. If the arrow is shot horizontally with a velocity of 86.0 m/s, how far above the bull's-eye must he aim to compensate for gravity pulling his arrow downward?

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d=vit + at^2

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I ended up getting 2.01m but am sure if that is correct and would like to know if I am not how to go about this, since it is confusing, when you don't know what formulas should/can be used
 
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Do you want to show how you got that answer?
 
i got it now its 1.007m

cant exactly remmeber, keep dividing and multuiplying it and got it
 
halo9909 said:
cant exactly remmeber, keep dividing and multuiplying it and got it
Then you didn't solve the problem.
 
A new approach to the Monte Carlo method?
 
wow that works now? I wish I had that talent

I also got the same result as you, but my method was a little more complicated than just "multiplying and dividing" until I got the answer. How about we share our approaches so as we can learn a little something off each other?

Mine:

1) I calculated the time of flight using [tex]\Delta x=v_{x}t[/tex]
2) Using that result, found the intial vertical velocity using [tex]\Delta x=v_{i}t+\frac{1}{2}at^{2}[/tex]
3) I was then able to find the acute angle that the arrow had to make with the horizontal by trigonometry and the velocity vectors (vx=86,vy=result from 2), by using [tex]\theta=tan^{-1}(\frac{v_{iy}}{v_{ix}})[/tex]
4) Once I found the angle of the arrow to the horizontal, I could find exactly how far above the bullseye the arrow was pointing at by considering the distance between the arrow and target and using trigonometry: [tex]h=\Delta x.tan\theta[/tex]

From the sound of it, you have taken another approach which sounds more simple. If possible, could you please share your solution?
 

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