Finding the Optimal Archer Angle for Hitting a Moving Target on Planet Zorg

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves kinematics, specifically the trajectory of a projectile (an arrow) aimed at a moving target (an octomorph) that drops from a height. The scenario is set on planet Zorg, where the archer must determine the optimal angle to hit the octomorph as it falls.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to establish equations for both the arrow's and the octomorph's positions over time, considering both horizontal and vertical components of motion.
  • Some participants question how to manipulate the equations to solve for the angle and time, noting the presence of two unknowns.
  • There is a suggestion to relate the x and y coordinates of the arrow and the octomorph when the arrow strikes the target.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different mathematical relationships and attempting to derive the angle needed for the arrow to hit the octomorph. Some guidance has been provided regarding the cancellation of terms in the equations, leading to further exploration of the relationship between the angle and time.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of the problem's setup, including the initial conditions and the gravitational acceleration specific to planet Zorg. There is an acknowledgment of varying levels of experience among participants, which influences the discussion dynamics.

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Hello everybody. Although this is just a kinematics problem, I am having a hard time figuring out what to do. The question is:

An archer on the planet zorg spots an octomorph that is resting in a tree above water. The octomorph's position in the tree is 100m away horizontally and 100m vertically away from the bow of the archer. The archer shoots a quantum arrow at the creature with an initial speed of 100m/s, however, at the instant the arrow is fired, the octomorph drops straight out of the tree into the water below. If the acceleration of gravity on planet zorg is 98.1m/s^2 , in what direction should the archer aim his arrow if it is to hit the octomorph in stride on the way down?

Homework Equations


y= -1/2g(t^2)+Voy(t) + yo
x= Vxt

The Attempt at a Solution


I have figured out the position of the octomorph as a function of time : y=(-49.05m/s^2)t^2 + 100m

I have no idea how to make the arrow and octomorph reach the same position in the same time. We cannot simply set their equations equal to each other as the arrow has an x component to take into consideration. Any help or ideas will be greatly appreciated!
 
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You are going to have two equations in two unknowns (the time and the angle). The horizontal location of the arrow has to match the horizontal location of the octomorph, and the vertical location of the arrow has to match the vertical location of the octomorph. Let ##\theta## be the angle (measured from the horizontal) that the arrow is launched. In terms of ##\theta##, what are the x and y components of the arrow velocity? In terms of ##\theta## and t, what are the horizontal and vertical locations of the arrow at time t (relative to the archer)?

Chet
 
The horizontal component of velocity is (Vo)cosθ which is (100m/s)cosθ

And the vertical component of velocity will be (100m/s)sinθ

The position equation in the horizontal direction will be

X = (100m/s)cosθ(t)

And for the y direction it will be

Y = (-49.05m/s^2)t^2 + (100m/s)sinθ(t)
 
Im thinking now we might have to combine and somehow manipulate these equations in order to solve for the angle and time. Not sure exactly how since there are two unknowns. Thats what I am thinking atleast.. but i will wait for your response
 
Also i believe that the value for x will be 100m regardless of what occurs in the y direction. Meaning that the full equation for the horizontal direction will be

100m = (100m/s)cosθ(t)
cosθ = 1s(second)/t
θ = arcos( s/t )

is that right?
 
How are the x and y coordinates of the arrow related to the x and y coordinates of the octorph when the arrow hits the octomprph?

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
How are the x and y coordinates of the arrow related to the x and y coordinates of the octorph when the arrow hits the octomprph?

Chet
The will both have the same x and y coordinates.

Both x coordinates will be at X = 100m

I think also means that the y equations will be equal to each other.

so
(-49.05m/s^2)t^2 +(100m/s)sinθ(t) = (-4.905m/s^2)t^2 +100m
 
So, you can cancel the acceleration terms from both sides of the y equation. What does that leave you?

Chet
 
I don't think any equations or calculations are needed to answer this question.
 
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  • #10
epenguin said:
I don't think any equations or calculations are needed to answer thus question.
I don't think so either, but that is only because we both have lots of experience. I don't think I would have known this as a new initiate like the OP. (Probably you would have).

Chet
 
  • #11
Chestermiller said:
So, you can cancel the acceleration terms from both sides of the y equation. What does that leave you?

Chet
Yes they can be canceled.

This will leave the equation as

(100m/s)sinθ(t) = 100m

Im sorry.. but still can't see where this is going. Sorry for the late reply. i had to attend some classes
 
  • #12
So you have:

100 sinΘ t = 100

and

100 cosΘ t =100

What do you get if you divide the first equation by the second?

Chet
 
  • #13
Chestermiller said:
So you have:

100 sinΘ t = 100

and

100 cosΘ t =100

What do you get if you divide the first equation by the second?

Chet

You divide them so
tanθ=1
θ=arctan(1)=45 degrees

Is that right
 
  • #14
Yes.
 
  • #15
Chestermiller said:
Yes.
Thank you so much i appreciate it! Thumbs up!
 

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