Complex Dielectric Constant Question

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The discussion revolves around the complex dielectric constant in solid state physics, specifically focusing on its definition and components, including the significance of the term \(\epsilon_L\). Participants explore the theoretical framework and implications of using a complex dielectric function.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on the meaning of \(\epsilon_L\) in the context of the complex dielectric constant equation.
  • Another participant suggests that \(\epsilon_L\) represents the traditional dielectric constant before introducing the complex aspects, indicating it may depend on frequency.
  • A different participant asserts that the introduction of a complex dielectric function is a matter of convenience, allowing for the representation of out-of-phase responses in the system.
  • There is a query regarding the meaning of the subscript "L," with one participant proposing it refers to the contribution from positively charged cores, suggesting a connection to lattice effects.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of \(\epsilon_L\) and the necessity of using a complex dielectric function, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a consensus.

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The discussion does not resolve the definitions or implications of the terms used, and assumptions regarding the physical context of the dielectric constant are not fully explored.

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Hello,

I'm trying to follow along in my Solid State Physics book, but I'm getting hung up on an equation for the complex dielectric constant.

\widetilde{\epsilon_r}=\epsilon_L+j\widetilde{\sigma}/\omega

Multiply through by the definition of the complex conductivity, so that we get something in the form of \epsilon_r=\epsilon'_r+j\epsilon''_r

where

\epsilon'_r is \epsilon_L/\epsilon_0 + \sigma_0\tau/\epsilon_0(1+\omega^2\tau^2)

What, exactly, is \epsilon_L? Is it just the old value of the dielectric constant before we introduce this complex stuff (So, a function of \omega)? The book doesn't really elaborate.
 
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yep. it is just convenient to put everything into a "complex" dielectric function. A really good book on dielectrics that I would recommend is called (I think) "Theory of dielectrics" by Frolich. One does not need to introduce a complex dielectric function if one does not want to... as usual it is just convenient... the fact that there are "two" dielectric functions (i.e., two components \epsilon^' and \epsilon^{''}) is because the response of the system can be out of phase... An external (real) electric field with time dep cos(wt) induces response like Acos(wt)+Bsin(wt) and the coefficient of the sin term is just like the imaginary part of the dielectric function. cheers.
 
what does the subscript "L" mean, anyway?
 
zhanghe said:
what does the subscript "L" mean, anyway?

From what I understand, it means the effect from only the positively charged cores (Hence, L for Lattice).
 
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