Complex Exponential Integration: Sin vs. Cos?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function e^-x multiplied by sine and cosine terms, specifically focusing on the integrals ∫_0^∞ e^-x sin(ax) dx and ∫_0^∞ e^-x cos(ax) dx. Participants are exploring the implications of using complex exponentials in these integrals.

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  • Participants discuss the use of complex exponentials to solve integrals involving sine and cosine functions, questioning whether the approach differs between the two. There is an exploration of how to express sin(ax) in terms of complex exponentials, similar to cos(ax).

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the differences between integrating sine and cosine using complex exponentials. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the real and imaginary parts of the complex exponential representation.

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There is some confusion regarding the application of complex exponentials to sine functions, as well as the implications of using these methods for different trigonometric functions. Participants are navigating through these concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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∫_0^∞ e^-x sin (ax) dx

integrating from 0 to infinity for e^-x sin (ax)

i was wondering that if i use complex exponentials for this will it be the same as solving for ∫_0^∞ e^-x cos (ax) dx. Will it make any difference if there is sin instead of cos because i know how to solve for cos (ax) but i don't know if it makes any difference if the cos is replaced by a sin.. does it make any difference?

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It makes a difference in the sense that the answer is different, yes. The technique is pretty much the same, if that's what you mean.
 
yup, because if i use cos (ax) i can replace it with e ^ i(ax) because i can use the complex exponential there. But what do i use for sin (ax).. i will just do what i did for cos (ax)

∫_0^∞ e^-x. e^i(ax) ... (((since ∫_0^∞ e-x (cos ax + isin ax) dx)))

Therefore we get:

∫_0^∞ e^-(1-ia)x dx

then i can go ahead from there to get 1/ 1 + a^2... now the only thing i am confused with is that this is for the complex exp. for cos (ax) what will it be for sin (ax)
 
Are you claiming that [itex]\cos ax+i \sin ax=\cos a x[/itex]? This is of course not true. Try [itex]\sin x=Im(e^{i x})[/itex].
 
aks_sky said:
yup, because if i use cos (ax) i can replace it with e ^ i(ax) because i can use the complex exponential there.
You can't just "replace it with e^i(ax)". e^(iax)= cos(x)+ i sin(x). You can replace cos(x) with e^i(ax) and then just take the real part of the answer. And, of course, with sin(ax) you can replace it with e^i(ax) and take only the imaginary part of the answer.

But what do i use for sin (ax).. i will just do what i did for cos (ax)

∫_0^∞ e^-x. e^i(ax) ... (((since ∫_0^∞ e-x (cos ax + isin ax) dx)))

Therefore we get:

∫_0^∞ e^-(1-ia)x dx

then i can go ahead from there to get 1/ 1 + a^2... now the only thing i am confused with is that this is for the complex exp. for cos (ax) what will it be for sin (ax)
 
ahhh i get it.. sweet.. thank u
 

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