Complex exponentials (simplify the expression)

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The discussion revolves around simplifying the expression ei6x(1+e-i10x)/(1+ei2x) in terms of cosine functions, utilizing complex exponentials and Euler's formula.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of Euler's formula and express confusion about how to manipulate the expression to achieve a cosine form. Some participants share their attempts and the challenges faced in simplification.

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Several participants have offered guidance on showing work and suggested useful identities. There is an acknowledgment of progress made by some, but others still express uncertainty about the simplification process.

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Participants mention the need to express the result in terms of cosines and sines, indicating a specific requirement for the homework. There are also references to potential confusion regarding the handling of exponents and factors in the expression.

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1. Simplify ei6x(1+e-i10x)/(1+ei2x)
2. i have no idea how to simplify this its supposed to be in terms of cosines
3. i don't how i can simplify this such that i can use the 1/2(e^x +e^-x) = cosx formula
 
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You need the Euler formula e^{ix} = \cos x + i \sin x.
 
fzero said:
You need the Euler formula e^{ix} = \cos x + i \sin x.

i tried that, i got garbage it MUST be in terms of cosines
 
You might want to show some work to see where your problem is. (Also you might find e^{6ix} = e^{5ix} e^{ix} useful.)
 
fzero said:
You might want to show some work to see where your problem is. (Also you might find e^{6ix} = e^{5ix} e^{ix} useful.)


well, I've multiplied it out i got e^6x+e^-4x and then i did e^2x * e^4x + e^-4x
in the numerator to try to get it in cosine form but i can't get the e^2 out of there so i really have no idea how, can someone show me the steps of simplifying this
 
You also want to simplify the denominator, so you don't want to multiply the numerator through by the whole e^{6ix} factor. (Also you're leaving out the factors of i in your exponentials, which is a bit confusing, but you shouldn't do it in anything you turn into be graded.)
 
fzero said:
You might want to show some work to see where your problem is. (Also you might find e^{6ix} = e^{5ix} e^{ix} useful.)


i got it! you're a genius, how on Earth did you see that??
 
Exponent rules :D...
 
Luongo said:
i got it! you're a genius, how on Earth did you see that??

You know that

\frac{ e^{ia} + e^{-ia}}{2} = \cos a

so if you see

1 + e^{ib}

you want to rewrite that as

e^{ib/2} ( e^{-ib/2} + e^{ib/2} ).
 
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fzero said:
You know that

\frac{ e^{ia} + e^{-ia}}{2} = \cos a

so if you see

1 + e^{ib}

you want to rewrite that as

e^{ib/2} ( e^{-ib/2} + e^{ib/2} ).


thanks a lot i appreciate it i was hung up on this question for a while :redface:
 
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Luongo said:
thanks a lot i appreciate it i was hung up on this question for a while :redface:


for simplifying in terms of sines... can i use the same formula except the negative sign is between the 2 expos?
 
  • #12
Luongo said:
for simplifying in terms of sines... can i use the same formula except the negative sign is between the 2 expos?

Yes.
 

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