Complex Notation Homework: Solve for B & Phi in Terms of A, Omega, Delta

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The problem involves expressing the cosine function in terms of complex notation, specifically finding the values of B and Phi from the equation x = Acos(ωt + δ) and its equivalent form x = Re(Be^(iΦ)), where B is real.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between rectangular and polar forms of complex numbers, referencing Euler's formula. There is an attempt to equate terms from the two forms of the equation to derive relationships for B and Φ.

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Some participants are exploring potential relationships between B and A, and Φ and (ωt + δ), while questioning the simplicity of their findings. There is an ongoing examination of the validity of these relationships without reaching a consensus.

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Participants express uncertainty about how to begin the problem and seek guidance on foundational concepts related to complex numbers and their representations.

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Homework Statement



If x= Acos([tex]\omega[/tex]t + [tex]\delta[/tex]), then one can also write it as x = Re(B[tex]e^{i\Phi}[/tex]). Find B and [tex]\Phi[/tex] in terms of A, [tex]\omega[/tex], and [tex]\delta[/tex] if B is real.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Not sure where to start on this one. I know you guys can't give answers. All I'm looking for is where to get started. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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w3390 said:

Homework Statement



If x= Acos([tex]\omega[/tex]t + [tex]\delta[/tex]), then one can also write it as x = Re(B[tex]e^{i\Phi}[/tex]). Find B and [tex]\Phi[/tex] in terms of A, [tex]\omega[/tex], and [tex]\delta[/tex] if B is real.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Not sure where to start on this one. I know you guys can't give answers. All I'm looking for is where to get started. Any help would be appreciated.

Are you familiar with converting between the rectangular and polar forms of complex numbers? See partway down this wiki page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_coordinate_system

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Actually, I think I might have something.

Euler's formula says: e^(i*phi) = cos(phi) + i*sin(phi)

The real part of this is: Re(e^(i*phi)) = cos(phi).

Therefore, the real part of Be^(i*phi) is: Bcos(phi).

So I have: X = Bcos(phi) and X = Acos(wt + delta)

Am I able to just compare the two equations to get the following relationships:

B = A

PHI = wt + deltaIt can't be that simple, can it?
 
w3390 said:
Actually, I think I might have something.

Euler's formula says: e^(i*phi) = cos(phi) + i*sin(phi)

The real part of this is: Re(e^(i*phi)) = cos(phi).

Therefore, the real part of Be^(i*phi) is: Bcos(phi).

So I have: X = Bcos(phi) and X = Acos(wt + delta)

Am I able to just compare the two equations to get the following relationships:

B = A

PHI = wt + delta


It can't be that simple, can it?

:biggrin:
 

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