Complex number and its conjugate problem help

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The problem involves a complex number z and its conjugate z¯, which are related through the equation z¯z¯ + zi = -i + 1. Participants are tasked with finding the values of z.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Some participants suggest expressing z in terms of its real and imaginary components (z = x + iy) and substituting into the equation. Others question the interpretation of terms like zi and z.z¯, seeking clarification on their meanings.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on how to approach the substitution and manipulation of the equation. There is a recognition of the need for clearer understanding of the terms involved, and multiple interpretations of the equation are being explored.

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Homework Statement


Given that a complex number z and its conjugate z¯ satisfy the equation z¯z¯ + zi = -i +1. Find the values of z.

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The Attempt at a Solution

 
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Hey, I think z.z-=1 but what's with the zi thing. Can you upload the picture of your question? Its not clear enough.
 
blckndglxy said:

Homework Statement


Given that a complex number z and its conjugate z¯ satisfy the equation z¯z¯ + zi = -i +1. Find the values of z.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Hi blckndglxy, welcome to PF.

You have to show some attempt at solving the problem. Write z as z=x+iy, substitute into the equation z¯z¯ + zi = -i +1 and solve.
 
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Bibatshu Thapa said:
Hey, I think z.z-=1 but what's with the zi thing. Can you upload the picture of your question? Its not clear enough.
You are not right, z.z- = |z|2, square of the magnitude of z. zi is z multiplied by i.
 
ehild said:
Hi blckndglxy, welcome to PF.

You have to show some attempt at solving the problem. Write z as z=x+iy, substitute into the equation z¯z¯ + zi = -i +1 and solve.
hello there.. so z¯ = x-iy right? so i have to replace the z¯ too right? sorry I'm still new and I'm clueless with this question..
 
blckndglxy said:
hello there.. so z¯ = x-iy right? so i have to replace the z¯ too right? sorry I'm still new and I'm clueless with this question..
Yes. Replace z with x+iy and z- with x-iy.
 
blckndglxy said:
hello there.. so z¯ = x-iy right? so i have to replace the z¯ too right? sorry I'm still new and I'm clueless with this question..
Writing ##z = x+iy## and ##bar{z} = x - iy##, your equation becomes
$$|z|^2 = 1 - i - zi$$.
Can you see how the value of ##x## can be determined right away from this equation? That leaves you with the simpler problem of finding ##y##.
 
Ray Vickson said:
Writing ##z = x+iy## and ##bar{z} = x - iy##, your equation becomes
$$|z|^2 = 1 - i - zi$$.
The original equation is z¯z¯ + zi = -i +1. z¯z¯ is not |z|2,
 
ehild said:
Hi blckndglxy, welcome to PF.

You have to show some attempt at solving the problem. Write z as z=x+iy, substitute into the equation z¯z¯ + zi = -i +1 and solve.
Thanks a lot. Well I had forgotten the fact you mentioned. Really HELPFUL!
 

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