Complex Number Inequality: Solving for Locus of z = (x + iy) | Homework Help

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The discussion revolves around finding the locus of the complex number z = (x + iy) that satisfies the inequality (z + 2i) / (2z + i) < 1. Participants are exploring the implications of this inequality in the context of complex numbers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt to rationalize the expression after substituting z with (x + iy). Others question the proper interpretation of the inequality, suggesting that it may need to be expressed in terms of absolute values.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and guidance on how to approach the problem without directly solving it. There is recognition of the need to express the inequality in terms of absolute values, and some participants are reflecting on their previous attempts and considering new directions.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the importance of using parentheses correctly in expressions to avoid misinterpretation. Additionally, some participants express confusion about the use of inequalities with complex numbers.

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Homework Statement



The locus of z satisfying the inequality (z + 2 i) / (2 z + i) < 1 where z = (x + i y)

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The Attempt at a Solution


After putting the value of z = (x + i y) , I tried to rationalize it but now I am stuck. can somebody explain how to solve it. The correct answer is x2 + y2 < 1

Thank you in advance.
 
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mia5 said:

Homework Statement



The locus of z satisfying the inequality z + 2 i / 2 z + i is less than 1 where z = x + i y

Homework Equations



none

The Attempt at a Solution


After putting the value of z = x + i y , I tried to rationalize it but now I am stuck. can somebody explain how to solve it. The correct answer is x2 + y2 is less than 1

Thank you in advance.

You can't use inequalities directly with complex numbers.

Also, you need to use parentheses in your expressions to make them represent what you actually mean.

I assume you mean to be working with ( z + 2 i )/( 2 z + i)

z + 2 i / 2 z + i literally means ##\ \displaystyle z+\left(2\left(\frac{i}{2}\right)z\right)+i\ .##
 
mia5 said:
z + 2 i / 2 z + i is less than 1
Do you mean |(z + 2 i) /( 2 z + i)| < 1?
 
haruspex said:
Do you mean |(z + 2 i) /( 2 z + i)| < 1?

yes that is what I meant
 
Ok. Given an expression like 1/(x+iy), can you see how to get it into the form u+iv?
 
haruspex said:
Ok. Given an expression like 1/(x+iy), can you see how to get it into the form u+iv?

Are you meaning to say that I have to rationalize it ?
 
mia5 said:
Are you meaning to say that I have to rationalize it ?
Yes.
 
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haruspex said:
Yes.

Well, if you had only carefully read my first post. I did rationalize it but I am stuck at that.
 
mia5 said:
Well, if you had only carefully read my first post. I did rationalize it but I am stuck at that.

You don't need to rationalize it. Use |a/b|=|a|/|b|. So your inequality becomes |z+2i|<|2z+i|, right? Just express both sides in terms of x and y.
 
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Dick said:
You don't need to rationalize it. Use |a/b|=|a|/|b|. So your inequality becomes |z+2i|<|2z+i|, right? Just express both sides in terms of x and y.

:eek: Why didn't I think of it before ? But anyways thanks for the hint :smile:
 

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