Complex numbers. Imaginary part

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The discussion revolves around the manipulation of complex numbers, specifically focusing on the imaginary part of the reciprocal of a complex number. The original poster presents a problem involving the complex numbers z1 and z2, defined as z1 = x + iy and z2 = x - iy, and seeks clarification on the properties of their imaginary parts in relation to a derived equation.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the imaginary part of 1/z1 and questions whether they can interchange z1 and z2 with their respective imaginary parts in their calculations. Other participants discuss the validity of this approach and provide feedback on the correctness of the original poster's reasoning.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's question, providing varying perspectives on the manipulation of complex numbers. Some participants affirm the correctness of the original poster's work, while others caution against the proposed interchange of variables. The discussion is exploring different interpretations of the problem without reaching a definitive consensus.

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There is an emphasis on the properties of complex numbers and the implications of manipulating their imaginary parts. The discussion highlights the importance of maintaining the integrity of mathematical operations when dealing with complex numbers.

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z1 = x + iy
z2 = x - iy
(Complex conjugate)

Find:
Im (1/z1)

This is what I have tried to do:

(1) z1*z2 = x^2 + y^2

(2) z2 / (x^2 + y^2) = 1 / z1


The answer is:
-y / (x^2 + y^2) = I am (1 / z1)

So my question is:
Can I change z2 to I am (z2) and z1 to I am (z1) in equation (2)?
 
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They want the coefficient of i or Im(1/z)

i.e \frac{1}{x+iy}

What was/are ur thoughts?
 
oops, read another post and found that it would be wise to post my work. And i reckoned that no-one would have had the time to reply so i just edited my post.

But do my new post clarify anything?
 
No u can't change them that ways. It will defy all the properties of complex number
 
fannemel,
I think your work is correct. Because, if 2 numbers are equal, then their imaginary parts are equal.
 
Yes, fannemel, you are entirely correct. Given z = x + iy, Im(1/z) is indeed -y / (x^2 + y^2).

- Warren
 
Originally posted by chroot
Yes, fannemel, you are entirely correct. Given z = x + iy, Im(1/z) is indeed -y / (x^2 + y^2).

- Warren

His Questions is
So my question is:
Can I change z2 to I am (z2) and z1 to I am (z1) in equation (2)?

i.e.
\frac{Im_{z2}}{x^2 + y^2} = \frac{1}{Im_{z1}}
Which is not true
 
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what about
\frac{Im_{z2}}{x^2 + y^2} = I am [\frac{1}{z1}]

Would that be any better?

For me that would equal:

{\frac{-y}{x^2 + y^2} = I am [\frac{1}{z1}]
since Im_{z2} = -y
 
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Yes that is absolutely correct. You get the imaginary part of the reciprocal of z1, not z1
 
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what about
\frac{Im{z_2}}{x^2 + y^2} = I am [\frac{1}{z1}]
Would that be any better?

For me that would equal:
{\frac{-y}{x^2 + y^2} = I am [\frac{1}{z1}]
since
Im{z_2} = -y

That is true because x^2+ y^2 is a real number.
In general you cannot get the imaginary part of a number computed by a formula just by replacing each number in the formula by its imaginary part.

It would be far better for you to replace z_1 and z_2 by x+iy and x-iy right from the start:

\frac{1}{z_1}= \frac{1}{x+iy}. Now multiply both numerator and denominator by x- iy to get \frac{(1)(x- iy)}{(x+iy)(x-iy)}= \frac{x- iy}{x^2+ y^2}= \(\frac{x}{x^2+y^2}\)-\(\frac{y}{x^2+y^2}\)i so that it is obvious that the real part is \frac{x}{x^2+y^2} and the imaginary part is \frac{-y}{x^2+y^2}.
 

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