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The discussion revolves around solving the simultaneous equations involving complex numbers: z = w + 3i + 2 and z² - iw + 5 - 2i = 0. Initial attempts to substitute and simplify led to confusion and incorrect results. A suggested method involves substituting z into the second equation and applying the quadratic formula. Ultimately, the solutions found are z = 2i with w = -i - 2, and z = -i with w = -4i - 2. The thread emphasizes the importance of careful substitution and algebraic manipulation in solving complex equations.
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Hi all, I have spent a couple of hours on this perplexing question.

Solve the simultaneous equations:
z = w + 3i + 2 and z2 - iw + 5 - 2i = 0
giving z and w in the form (x + yi) where x and y are real.

I tried various methods, all to no avail.
I have substituted z into z2 , I got the wrong answers.
I also tried letting z be (a + bi) and w be (c + di) and tried to combine the 2 equations together, and I got a horrible mess with many unknowns.

Please help me, thank you!
 
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Just substitute $z=w+3i+2$ in $z^2-iw+5-2i=0$ and use the fact that $(a+b+c)^2=a^2+2ab+2ac+b^2+2bc+c^2$.

What do you get?
 
evinda said:
Just substitute $z=w+3i+2$ in $z^2-iw+5-2i=0$ and use the fact that $(a+b+c)^2=a^2+2ab+2ac+b^2+2bc+c^2$.

What do you get?

I got w = -2 + 2i or -2 - 7i, which is not the right answer :o
 
Solve the simultaneous equations:
z = w + 3i + 2 and z2 - iw + 5 - 2i = 0
giving z and w in the form (x + yi) where x and y are real.

$z = w + 3i + 2 \implies w = z-3i-2$

$z^2 - i(z-3i-2) + 5-2i = 0$

$z^2 - iz + 2 = 0$

now use the quadratic formula to solve for $z$ ... you should get

$z = 2i \implies w = -i-2$

or

$z =-i \implies w = -4i-2$
 
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