Complex numbers simultaneous equations

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The discussion revolves around solving simultaneous equations involving complex numbers, specifically the equations z = w + 3i + 2 and z² - iw + 5 - 2i = 0. Participants explore various methods to express z and w in the form (x + yi), where x and y are real numbers.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in solving the equations and describes attempts to substitute z into z², resulting in incorrect answers.
  • Another participant suggests substituting z = w + 3i + 2 into the second equation and applying the expansion formula for squares.
  • A later reply reiterates the substitution method and notes that their calculations yield w = -2 + 2i or -2 - 7i, which they believe to be incorrect.
  • Another participant provides a step-by-step approach, substituting z into the equations and simplifying to derive w = -i - 2 or w = -4i - 2, indicating potential solutions for z.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct solutions, as some proposed values for w are challenged or deemed incorrect by others.

Contextual Notes

Some participants' calculations lead to different values for w, indicating potential errors in their methods or assumptions. The discussion does not resolve these discrepancies.

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Hi all, I have spent a couple of hours on this perplexing question.

Solve the simultaneous equations:
z = w + 3i + 2 and z2 - iw + 5 - 2i = 0
giving z and w in the form (x + yi) where x and y are real.

I tried various methods, all to no avail.
I have substituted z into z2 , I got the wrong answers.
I also tried letting z be (a + bi) and w be (c + di) and tried to combine the 2 equations together, and I got a horrible mess with many unknowns.

Please help me, thank you!
 
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Just substitute $z=w+3i+2$ in $z^2-iw+5-2i=0$ and use the fact that $(a+b+c)^2=a^2+2ab+2ac+b^2+2bc+c^2$.

What do you get?
 
evinda said:
Just substitute $z=w+3i+2$ in $z^2-iw+5-2i=0$ and use the fact that $(a+b+c)^2=a^2+2ab+2ac+b^2+2bc+c^2$.

What do you get?

I got w = -2 + 2i or -2 - 7i, which is not the right answer :o
 
Solve the simultaneous equations:
z = w + 3i + 2 and z2 - iw + 5 - 2i = 0
giving z and w in the form (x + yi) where x and y are real.

$z = w + 3i + 2 \implies w = z-3i-2$

$z^2 - i(z-3i-2) + 5-2i = 0$

$z^2 - iz + 2 = 0$

now use the quadratic formula to solve for $z$ ... you should get

$z = 2i \implies w = -i-2$

or

$z =-i \implies w = -4i-2$
 

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