Complex Numbers: Solving 2^(8n)exp^(2niπ)=2^(8n)

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The discussion revolves around the equation 28nexp(2niπ) = 28n, exploring the implications of the exponential term and its relation to complex numbers. The scope includes conceptual understanding of complex exponentials and their properties.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the equation implies exp(2niπ) = 1, questioning the relationship to exp(iπ) = -1.
  • Another participant explains the exponential form of complex numbers, showing that e2πi = 1 through trigonometric identities.
  • A third participant connects the identity e2iπ = (e)2 = (-1)2 = 1.
  • One participant suggests visualizing complex numbers as vectors in polar form, indicating how certain angles yield specific values.
  • Another participant reiterates the implication that exp(2niπ) = 1 and refers to a previous post for clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mathematical properties of the exponential function in relation to complex numbers, but there is no explicit consensus on the broader implications of these relationships.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the relationship between exp(2niπ) and exp(iπ), and the discussion does not resolve these connections fully.

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Hey again;
It doesn't seem to be my day for spotting the obvious;

I've come across this problem now:

[tex]2^{8n}\exp^{2ni\Pi} = 2^{8n}[/tex]

This imples that [tex]exp^{2ni\Pi} = 1[/tex], i know that [tex]exp^{i\Pi} =-1[/tex], but is that related?

hmm, Latex issues...i'll try and fix them :) - sorted
Craig
 
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Well, using the exponential form: [tex]e^{2\pi i}=\cos(2\pi)+i\sin(2\pi)=1[/tex]. So, [tex]e^{2\pi ni}=\cos(2n\pi)+i\sin(2n\pi)[/tex] and since cos(2n pi)=cos(2 pi)=1, and sin(2n pi)=sin(2 pi)=0, the result exp(2ni pi)=1 is obtained
 
The relation to that famous identity is
[tex]e^{2i\pi}=(e^{i\pi})^2=(-1)^2=1.[/tex]
 
Hi craig100,

you can visualize the complex number [tex]e^{i \theta}[/tex] as a vector of length 1 that is rotated by an angle [tex]\theta[/tex] with respect to the positive x-axis,
see .[/URL]

Also, see the section "Polar Form" here

The form [tex]z=r \cdot e^{i \theta}[/tex] is also called polar form of the complex number z. The vector has the length r and an angle [tex]\theta[/tex] with respect to the positive x axis.

If you visualize the complex number in that way, you can immediately see what value the complex number z will have for certain values such as
[tex]\theta = \pi/4, \pi/2, \pi, 2 \pi[/tex].

This example shows [tex]z=5 \cdot e^{i \pi /3}[/tex]
 
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craig100 said:
This imples that [tex]exp^{2ni\Pi} = 1[/tex], i know that [tex]exp^{i\Pi} =-1[/tex], but is that related?

Best way to show how its related is Eighty's post.
 
Thank guys, quite simple afterall :smile:
 

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