Complex Potential Flow - Two Vortices offset from the Origin

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The discussion revolves around determining the complex potential for two equal counter-rotating vortices located at specific points in the complex plane and analyzing the shape of the streamlines associated with this configuration. The focus includes both theoretical aspects and practical challenges in separating the complex potential into its real and imaginary components.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the complex potential for a vortex at the origin and extends it to two vortices, proposing the expression W(z) = iΓ/(2π) * ln((z+a)/(z-a)).
  • Another participant suggests rewriting the logarithm as ln(z+a) - ln(z-a) to facilitate separation of the real and imaginary parts.
  • A participant expresses difficulty in separating the logarithmic terms after rewriting, indicating confusion with the addition of 'a' in the logarithm.
  • One participant introduces a notation for the magnitude and phase of the complex numbers z+a and z-a, suggesting this could help in the separation process.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on the introduced notation, indicating a lack of familiarity with it.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the conversion of complex numbers into polar form, with a suggestion that standard formulas exist for this transformation.
  • One participant proposes a method for expressing ln(z+a) in terms of its components but expresses skepticism about the feasibility of finding a new r and θ.
  • A later reply confirms that the proposed method is indeed possible, but does not provide specific resources for the formulas mentioned.
  • Finally, one participant indicates they have resolved their confusion and figured out the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and progress, with some agreeing on methods to approach the problem while others remain uncertain about specific steps. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the best method for separating the complex potential.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for specific formulas to convert complex numbers into polar form, but do not provide these resources. There is also uncertainty regarding the notation introduced for the magnitudes and phases of the complex numbers involved.

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Homework Statement



a. Determine the complex potential for two equal counter-rotating vortices with strength \Gamma, the positive one located at z=-a and the negative one at z=a.

b/ Show the shape of the streamlines for this case.

Homework Equations



z = x + iy = r*e^(i\theta)

W(z) = \Phi + i\Psi
where \Phi is the potential function and \Psi is the stream function

The Attempt at a Solution



a. This part is relatively easy. I know that the complex potential for a vortex at the origin is

i\Gamma/(2*\pi) * ln(z)

Therefore, for the two vortices, we will have:

W(z) = i\Gamma/(2*\pi) * ln((z+a)/(z-a))


b. This is where I start to have trouble. I need to separate W(z) into the real and imaginary parts, and then I know that the imaginary part is the stream function. However, I don't know how to do this. It is easy for a vortex at the origin, because then I would have

ln(z) = ln(r*e^(i\theta)) = ln(r) + i\theta

However, the addition and subtraction of 'a' inside of the log is giving me a lot of trouble. I've tried to separate it every way that I can think of but haven't had any success. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
 
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To separate real and imaginary parts, it is easier to write the log as ln(z+a)-ln(z-a). In both cases, this is just a shift by +-a.
 
I tried that, but still did not make any progress.

ln(z+a) - ln(z-a)
ln(r*e^iθ + a) - ln(r*e^iθ - a)

Now what? I can't split it up into ln(r)+iθ anymore.
 
What about ##r^+##,##\theta^+## corresponding to the magnitude and phase of z+a?
 
I'm sorry I don't quite follow you, could you explain in more detail? I'm unfamiliar with that notation. Thanks.
 
That is a notation I invented for your specific problem.

z+a can be written as ##z+a=r^+ e^{i \theta^+}## with some real values ##\theta^+## and ##r^+## - there are formulas how to convert an arbitrary complex number to that shape.
In the same way, z-a can be written as ##z-a=r^- e^{i \theta^-}## with some real values ##\theta^-## and ##r^-##.
 
Would I do something along these lines?

ln(z+a)
ln(r*e^iθ + a)
ln(r*cos(θ)+i*r*sin(θ) + a)
ln((r*cos(θ)+a) + i*r*sin(θ))

And then try to find a new r and θ in order to put this back into the form of r*e^iθ ? That doesn't seem to me like it will be possible, and I can't find the formulas that you mentioned. Are they available online somewhere?
 
That is possible.
and I can't find the formulas that you mentioned. Are they available online somewhere?
The standard formulas how you get r and θ if you have a complex number a+ib? They are everywhere.
 
I think I figured it out, thanks so much!
 

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