Composing Functions and Finding Derivatives

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The discussion focuses on composing functions and finding derivatives, specifically with the functions f(x,y,z) = √(x² + y² + z²) and c(t) = <cos(t), sin(t), 1>. Participants clarify that to find (f ∘ c)(t), one should substitute c(t) into f, resulting in f(c(t)) = √((cos(t))² + (sin(t))² + 1²). After simplification, the function evaluates to √2, indicating that it is a constant value. Consequently, the derivative of this function is zero, as it does not change with respect to t.
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I have two functions:

f(x,y,z)=\sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}+z^{2}}
\vec{c}(t)=&lt;cos(t),sin(t),1&gt;

I need to find:
(f \circ c)&#039;(t)
and
(f \circ c)&#039;(0)

I don't have any answers to work with, but I'm guessing I just stick f into c to get this:

\vec{c}(t)=&lt;cos(\sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}+z^{2}}),sin(\sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}+z^{2}}),1&gt;

Then once I have that get the derivative matrix and plug in 0?
 
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what you didn't doesn't make sense

c maps the scalar t to the vector (x(t),y(t),z(t))
f maps the vector (x,y,z) to a scalar f(x,y,z)

so you want to find f(c(t))
f(c(t)) will map t to a scalar
 
lanedance said:
what you didn't doesn't make sense

c maps the scalar t to the vector (x(t),y(t),z(t))
f maps the vector (x,y,z) to a scalar f(x,y,z)

so you want to find f(c(t))
f(c(t)) will map t to a scalar

I follow you. So I really should be working with this after I put everything together?

f(x,y,z)=\sqrt{(cos(t))^{2}+(sin(t))^{2}+(1)^{2}}
 
looks better, and if you want to include everything explicitly
(f \circ c)(t) = f(c(t)) = f(x(t),y(t),z(T))=\sqrt{(cos(t))^{2}+(sin(t))^{2}+(1)^{2}}
 
Lancelot59 said:
I follow you. So I really should be working with this after I put everything together?

f(x,y,z)=\sqrt{(cos(t))^{2}+(sin(t))^{2}+(1)^{2}}

Yep. Now just simplify that expression.
 
...I did all that just to get the square root of 2? What a rip off. So the function is just going to be equal to the root of two, and the derivative is zero?
 
Lancelot59 said:
...I did all that just to get the square root of 2? What a rip off. So the derivative of the function at any point is therefore a constant root 2?

no, the function at any point is a constant root 2.
 
f\circ c(x) means f(c(x)) not g(f(x)).
 

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