Calculating Magnitude Difference: Is it Right?

In summary, the conversation is discussing the difference in magnitude between two counts and the uncertainty in calculating this difference. The number 100 is mentioned as a background level, but it is unclear if it is the uncertainty. The speaker suggests adjusting the total-count values for this background level and using the standard deviation for a Poisson distribution to calculate the uncertainty. The final answer can be found using error propagation.
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Homework Statement
We make two observations of the same star on different nights. In the first observation, the integrated flux value is 11,347 counts and in the second observation the integrated flux is 10,606 counts. Assume that the background level(dark & bias)is 100 counts for each observation. Also assume one count per photon(i.e. QE=100% and gain = 1).
a. Compute the difference in the star’s brightness and the uncertainty in that difference.
Relevant Equations
M=-2.5log(f1/f2) SE=𝜎/sqrt(2n-2)
I have found the difference in the magnitude from the counts to be -.073 using -2.5log(11347/10606) but I m unsure if this is right or how to calculate the uncertainty
 
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It looks like the number 100 is a given standard error(uncertainty) for a single measurement. Perhaps you could use that to find the uncertainty for the difference.
 
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guv said:
It looks like the number 100 is a given standard error(uncertainty) for a single measurement. Perhaps you could use that to find the uncertainty for the difference.
I think the '100' is the background level, not an uncertainty; it is basically the reading you'd still get with no star in view (e.g. like background level when measuring ionising radiation).

@ChrisWM first needs to correct the given total-count values to allow for this background.

It's not clear where 'SE=𝜎/sqrt(2n-2)' comes from. The standard deviation for each total-count measurement can be found by using the standard deviation for aPoisson distrubution.

Then the final answer can be found using the rules for error propagation.
 
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1. What is magnitude difference and why is it important?

Magnitude difference is the numerical difference between the brightness of two objects. It is important because it allows scientists to quantify the difference in brightness and compare different objects in the night sky.

2. How is magnitude difference calculated?

Magnitude difference is calculated by subtracting the magnitude of the fainter object from the magnitude of the brighter object. The resulting number is the magnitude difference between the two objects.

3. Is magnitude difference always a positive number?

No, magnitude difference can be a positive or negative number depending on which object is brighter. A positive magnitude difference means the first object is brighter, while a negative magnitude difference means the second object is brighter.

4. Can magnitude difference be used for objects of different types?

Yes, magnitude difference can be used for different types of objects such as stars, planets, and galaxies. However, it is important to note that the magnitude scale is different for each type of object, so the magnitude difference may not always accurately reflect the difference in brightness.

5. How accurate is magnitude difference in measuring brightness?

Magnitude difference is a useful tool for comparing the brightness of objects, but it is not always an accurate measure. Factors such as distance, atmospheric conditions, and the type of object can affect the perceived brightness and therefore the magnitude difference. Other methods, such as photometry, may be more accurate in measuring brightness.

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