Computing a line integral: How to parametrize and evaluate?

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The problem involves evaluating a line integral along a specified arc defined by the parametric equations x=t^2, y=2t, and z=√(4+3t) for t in the interval [-1,0]. The integral to be evaluated is ∫(z^2 dx + √x dy - 4xyz dz).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for parametrization and the computation of the integral, with some focusing on the correctness of derivatives and the implications of the parameter's range. Questions arise about the smoothness of the curve and the validity of expressions derived from the parameterization.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed the general approach is correct, while others have pointed out potential errors in the computation of dz and the interpretation of √x. There is a recognition of the need to ensure differentiability and to clarify the implications of the negative parameter values.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the parameter t is negative within the specified range, which raises questions about the interpretation of √x and its implications for the integral's evaluation. There is also a suggestion to change the parameterization to avoid confusion related to the negative values.

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Homework Statement



Let C be the arc x=t^2, \space y=2t, \space z= \sqrt{4+3t} for t \in [-1,0]

Evaluate the line integral :

\int_{C} z^2dx + \sqrt{x}dy - 4xyz dz

Homework Equations



\int_{C} f(P) dx = \int_{a}^{b} f(P(t)) x'(t) dt for t \in [a,b]

The Attempt at a Solution



So I have not computed one of these before. I know I'm supposed to parametrize ( choose a parameter ) and then compute my according integral. I really only need help setting it up, so here goes nothing :

This question already has a nice parameter t picked out for me on an appropriate interval. Since the curve is an arc, we know it is one to one, i.e there are no self intersections.

So we compute :

dx = 2tdt, \space dy = 2dt, \space dz = \frac{1}{2} (4+3t)^{-1/2} dt

*I'm not sure I should be concerned with smoothness here*.

Thus our integral becomes :

\int_{C} z^2dx + \sqrt{x}dy - 4xyz dz = \int_{-1}^{0} (6t^2+8t)dt + (2t)dt - (4t^3)dt

So after computing everything and setting it all up that's what I think I should get. Then computing the integral is a simple matter. I just want to make sure I'm not jumping too quickly missing anything and if anyone could verify it would be much appreciated.
 
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Zondrina said:

Homework Statement



Let C be the arc x=t^2, \space y=2t, \space z= \sqrt{4+3t} for t \in [-1,0]

Evaluate the line integral :

\int_{C} z^2dx + \sqrt{x}dy - 4xyz dz

Homework Equations



\int_{C} f(P) dx = \int_{a}^{b} f(P(t)) x'(t) dt for t \in [a,b]

The Attempt at a Solution



So I have not computed one of these before. I know I'm supposed to parametrize ( choose a parameter ) and then compute my according integral. I really only need help setting it up, so here goes nothing :

This question already has a nice parameter t picked out for me on an appropriate interval. Since the curve is an arc, we know it is one to one, i.e there are no self intersections.

So we compute :

dx = 2tdt, \space dy = 2dt, \space dz = \frac{1}{2} (4+3t)^{-1/2} dt

*I'm not sure I should be concerned with smoothness here*.

Thus our integral becomes :

\int_{C} z^2dx + \sqrt{x}dy - 4xyz dz = \int_{-1}^{0} (6t^2+8t)dt + (2t)dt - (4t^3)dt

So after computing everything and setting it all up that's what I think I should get. Then computing the integral is a simple matter. I just want to make sure I'm not jumping too quickly missing anything and if anyone could verify it would be much appreciated.

You've got the right procedure. You don't need to check that it's 1-1. You do want it to be differentiable, but it clearly is. You are missing some details. Check dz again, and I don't think sqrt(x) is t. Remember t is negative.
 
Dick said:
You've got the right procedure. You don't need to check that it's 1-1. You do want it to be differentiable, but it clearly is. You are missing some details. Check dz again, and I don't think sqrt(x) is t. Remember t is negative.

Silly me, I forgot my chain rule for a second there.

Also, x = t2, so sqrt(x) = t.
 
You expression for dz is not quite right. Other than that it looks ok.
 
Zondrina said:
Silly me, I forgot my chain rule for a second there.

Also, x = t2, so sqrt(x) = t.

t is NEGATIVE. I don't think the square root of t^2 can be negative.
 
Dick said:
t is NEGATIVE. I don't think the square root of t^2 can be negative.

The most common mistake in math I believe... I see why it's -t now.
 
If "t in [-1, 0]" bothers you let s= -t. Then x= t^2= s^2, y= 2t= -2s, and z= \sqrt{4+ 3t}= \sqrt{4- 3s} with s in [0, 1].
 
HallsofIvy said:
If "t in [-1, 0]" bothers you let s= -t. Then x= t^2= s^2, y= 2t= -2s, and z= \sqrt{4+ 3t}= \sqrt{4- 3s} with s in [0, 1].

Ohh I understand now. I had a question to prove this in general in my tutorial that I never had a chance to do.
 

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