Image Location for a Double Concave Mirror (-20 in Focal Length)

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SUMMARY

A double concave lens with a focal length of f = -20 inches produces a virtual image when the object is located 30 feet (360 inches) away. The lens formula 1/p + 1/q = 1/f was applied, resulting in an image distance q of -18.9 inches. The negative sign indicates that the image is virtual and located on the same side of the lens as the object. Understanding the sign convention for lenses is crucial for accurate image location determination.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of the lens formula: 1/p + 1/q = 1/f
  • Knowledge of sign conventions for lenses (positive and negative distances)
  • Familiarity with the concept of virtual and real images
  • Basic conversion skills (e.g., feet to inches)
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  • Study the lens formula in detail, focusing on applications for concave and convex lenses
  • Learn about the sign conventions for optical systems, including real and virtual images
  • Explore practical examples of image formation using double concave lenses
  • Investigate the differences between lenses and mirrors in optics
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Students of optics, physics enthusiasts, and anyone studying the behavior of light through lenses will benefit from this discussion.

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if a double concave mirror with a focal length f = -20 inches is used , where does the image seem to be located , if the image is 30 feet away from the lens

first i converted the 30ft to inches and got 360inches
used formula 1/p + 1/q = 1/f
.0028 + 1/q = -.05
1/q = -.053
q = -18.9 inches

is this correct
 
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lens, not mirror

I assume you mean a double concave lens, not mirror. (A diverging lens.) And I also assume you are asked to find the image distance when the object is 30 feet away. If so, you are correct. But what does the negative sign mean? (The negative sign is correct; I'm just checking that you know where the image is.)
 
not sure really where the image is i didn't think you could have a negitive distance

joe
 
the sign in front tells you where the image is situated.
either in front if it's virtual or at the back if it's real.
so in your case I would say that the image is virtual because the sign is negative.
I think anyway haha :)
 
cowgiljl said:
not sure really where the image is i didn't think you could have a negative distance
Just as I suspected! :eek:

To use the lens equation, you need to know the sign convention:

For converging lenses f is +, for diverging f is -
Object distance is always + (except for virtual objects)
Image distance is + for real images, - for virtual images

If the object is on the left of the lens, a real image (positive image distance) is on the right of the lens, while a virtual image (negative image distance) would be on the left.

In this case the image is virtual: it's on the same side of the lens that the object is on.
 
thanks for that information because I was going to ask the question tuesday
 

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