Conceptual: electric potential

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The problem involves a proton and an electron moving in a constant electric field, with the original poster questioning the comparison of their changes in electric potential energy as they move between two points. The context is rooted in concepts of electric potential and energy in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between electric potential energy and the direction of motion in an electric field, questioning how the work done on the particles affects their kinetic energy and potential energy. There are conflicting views on whether the changes in potential energy can be compared directly due to the opposite directions of movement.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the implications of positive work done on the particles and how it relates to their kinetic energy. Some guidance is offered regarding the nature of forces and motion, but no consensus has been reached on the comparison of potential energy changes.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the definitions and implications of electric potential energy, kinetic energy, and the effects of direction in a uniform electric field. There is a noted confusion regarding the relationship between acceleration, work, and energy changes.

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Homework Statement



A proton is released from rest at point A in a constant electric field and accelerates to point B (see part a of the drawing). An electron is released from rest at point B and accelerates to point A (see part b of the drawing). How does the change in the proton's electric potential energy compare with the change in the electron's electric potential energy?

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Homework Equations



V=EPE/q


The Attempt at a Solution



The proton experiences a smaller change in electric potential energy, since it has a smaller speed at B than the electron has at A. This is due to the larger mass of the proton.

The proton experiences a greater change in electric potential energy, since it has a greater charge magnitude.

One cannot compare the change in potential energies because the proton and electron move in opposite directions.

The proton experiences a smaller change in electric potential energy, since it has a smaller charge magnitude.

The change in the proton's electric potential energy is the same as the change in the electron's electric potential energy.

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Well if one is going in the same direction as the electric force, wouldn't the work be positive and EPE (electric potential energy) be higher since kinetic energy is decreasing? So would the last choice be correct, given that the magnitudes of change are the same but their directions are different?

I'm confuzzled.
 
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if something is moving in the direction of the Force, so that positive Work is done on it, why is its KE decreasing?
Do things accelerate toward high gravity PE, or toward low gravity PE?
 
lightgrav said:
if something is moving in the direction of the Force, so that positive Work is done on it, why is its KE decreasing?
Do things accelerate toward high gravity PE, or toward low gravity PE?

Well its KE is decreasing because the force exerted by the field contributes to its forward acceleration...
 
if it's accelerating forward, that usually means that its speed is increasing.
("released" usually means starting with speed = 0 ...)
 

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