Conceptual question about angular speed and radius for rotational motion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between angular speed, radius, and angular acceleration in the context of rotational motion. Participants explore how changes in radius might affect angular speed under different conditions, such as constant angular momentum and constant angular acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that angular speed is independent of radius, arguing that angle is a proportional quantity.
  • Another participant notes that under constant angular momentum, angular frequency decreases with a larger radius due to the relationship with torque and moment of inertia.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that angular speed is dependent on radius, stating that a smaller radius would result in greater acceleration if the force remains constant.
  • A participant supports the idea that radius affects angular speed by referencing a physical analogy involving spinning with arms extended versus close to the body.
  • One participant discusses the relationship between torque and energy, mentioning that torque has the same dimensions as work or energy when considering a twist of one radian.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between angular speed and radius, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Assumptions regarding constant angular momentum and constant angular acceleration are present but not fully explored. The discussion also touches on the concept of torque without resolving its implications on angular speed.

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let's say a wheel rotates with a constant angular acceleration. Would its angular speed be affected if the radius was changed? It seems that angular speed would be independent of the radius since the angle is just a proportional quantity.
 
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It depends on your assumptions. For a constant angular momentum, the angular frequency decreases with a larger radius - the moment of... something I can't remember at 5:00AM... gets larger since it's proportional to distance from axis - just like a lever.

On the other hand, for a constant angular acceleration, angular acceleration remains... constant.

Edit: Torque. It has the same units as a moment of whatever I can't remember.
 
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so angular speed is dependent on radius since the force that moves the wheel would cause a greater acceleration if the wheel had a smaller radius (meaning it would be a smaller wheel)? also assuming the force that moves the wheel stays constant.
 
Exactly so. Try it yourself, spin around first like a ballerina with your arms extended then like a spinning... cylinder and observe. You will look like a muppet on both accounts but it's all in the name of physics.
 
Thanks.

Btw, i will only look like a muppet if someone is looking.
 
Torque, measured in units of force times length has the same dimension as work or energy. and that is legitimate; turning a shaft exactly one radian of twist (and the radian is the mathematically natural unit of twist) the number of Newton-meters of torque becomes exactly the number of Joules of work done. so with a twist of one radian, torque is the same as energy.
 

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