Conceptual understanding of moment transfer for bouncing ball

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The discussion centers on the mechanics of a bouncing ball, specifically the momentum transfer during an elastic collision with a hard floor. The ball, with mass m, initially has momentum mv before impact, which changes to -mv after bouncing, resulting in a total momentum change of -2mv for the ball and +2mv for the floor, thereby conserving momentum in the system. The forces involved during the collision are dictated by Newton's 3rd law, where the ball exerts a force F on the floor, and the floor exerts an equal and opposite force -F on the ball. The forces fluctuate, with F decreasing to 0 between the moments of maximum compression and increasing again as the ball regains its shape and accelerates upward.

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Hi,

I am trying to wrap my head around what happens when a ball of mass m bounces against a hard floor. I assume a system that includes the ball and the floor (and eventually the entire planet) and an elastic collision. Before the ball hits the floor it has a momentum of mv. After the bounce the ball momentum change to -mv (that is changes by -2mv) and the floor momentum increases by +2mv. This way the momentum in the system is conserved.

At the instant just before the impact, t_a, the boll momentum is +mv and floor momentum is 0. At time t_a the ball touches the floor. According to Newton's 3rd law, the ball exerts a force F on the floor and the floor responds with a corresponding force -F (a force of equal magnitude, but in opposite direction). The ball starts compressing due to the force from the floor, loosing velocity and converting its kinetic energy into elastic (potential) energy. At the instant t_0 the ball velocity is 0 and maximum compression was achieved. Between t_a and t_0 an amount of +mv of momentum is transferred to the floor due to the force from the ball and -mv momentum is transferred from the floor to the ball due to the force from the floor. Thus, the floor momentum has increased by mv and the ball momentum is 0. After t_0, the ball's elastic energi begins to convert back to kinetic energi while the ball regains form. This results in a force F exerted by the ball on the floor and corresponding force -F from the floor that accelerates the ball upward. At instant t_b, when the ball looses contact with the floor, the floor has gained another +mv momentum and the ball lost the same amount. Consequently, the floor has now +2mv momentum and the ball has -mv momentum. Is this an accurate (albeit idealistic) explanation?

Also, am I correct in assuming that the force F decreases to 0 between t_a and t_0 and increases from 0 to F between t_0 and t_b? I am bit conflicted about what happens at t_0. At that instant I would think the ball still exerts a force F=mg on the floor and a corresponding force is exerted by the floor on the ball. In that case, F never decreases below mg... Hopefully somebody can help with a good explanation :-)
 
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Physics.1o1 said:
Also, am I correct in assuming that the force F decreases to 0 between t_a and t_0 and increases from 0 to F between t_0 and t_b?
No, the other way around

Physics.1o1 said:
I am bit conflicted about what happens at t_0. At that instant I would think the ball still exerts a force F=mg on the floor
No, more than mg

Physics.1o1 said:
F never decreases below mg
It does, around t_a and t_b.
 

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