Concerning the momentum operator

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the momentum operator and a translation operator defined by U\Psi(x) = \Psi(x-a). Participants explore how to demonstrate that exp(-iaP/h) equals U, with a focus on Taylor expansions and operator theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the relationship can be shown using Fourier analysis.
  • Another participant proposes that Taylor expanding the right-hand side reveals an operator acting on Psi(x), which corresponds to the series expansion of the exponent U.
  • A different participant reiterates the Taylor expansion argument and introduces a formula relating functions of operators to their eigenvalues, questioning how this might connect to U.
  • One participant agrees with the previous points and clarifies that applying U to \Psi(x) corresponds to the Taylor expansion of \Psi(x-a) around x.
  • Another participant raises a concern about the validity of the operator identity on non-analytic functions, suggesting that the proof needs to account for cases where the Taylor expansion does not converge.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the operator identity in the context of non-analytic functions, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the applicability of the proof in all cases.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about the functions involved, particularly concerning the convergence of the Taylor expansion for non-analytic functions.

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If [tex]U[/tex] is an operator so [tex]U\Psi(x)[/tex] = [tex]\Psi(x-a)[/tex].

How can I show that [tex]exp(-iaP/h) = U[/tex]

where P is the momentum operator [tex]P = -ih(d/dx)[/tex]

I sense Fourier analysis
 
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It's matter of Taylor expanding the right hand side. By definition this is just a sum of Psi and its derivatives. You can pull the Psi out of this Taylor series, and what's left is an operator (which is a sum of derivatives) acting on Psi(x). You'll recognise this operator as the series expansion of the exponent U.
 
xepma said:
It's matter of Taylor expanding the right hand side. By definition this is just a sum of Psi and its derivatives. You can pull the Psi out of this Taylor series, and what's left is an operator (which is a sum of derivatives) acting on Psi(x). You'll recognise this operator as the series expansion of the exponent U.

What I do know that if I have a function F of an operator then

[tex]F(P)\psi[/tex] = [tex]$\sum_{i} c_iF(\lambda_i)\psi_i[/tex]

where [tex]\lambda_i[/tex] are the eigenvalues of [tex]P[/tex]

and [tex]c_i = <\psi_i,\psi>[/tex]

can I somehow relate all of this to the operator [tex]U[/tex]
 
naggy, there might be some connection with your last post.

But what xepma is pointing out is that

[tex]U=exp(-iaP/h)=exp[-a(d/dx)]=\sum{\frac{(-a)^n}{n!}\frac{d^n}{dx^n}}[/tex].

Applying U to [tex]\Psi(x)[/tex] is identical to the Taylor expansion of [tex]\Psi(x-a)[/tex] around x.

That's all there is to it.
 
A problem with this proof is that the operator identity is valid on L^2, and thus remains valid when applied to non-analytic psi(x) for which the Taylor expansion around x does not converge to psi(x-a). So, you have to fix this (which is not difficult).
 

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