Confirming Time Dilation Without Subatomic Particles: Steven's Question

[Ihova]

Question from a layman.

All the experiments that have been done,
muons, atomic clocks in jets, ect
All of these involve measuring time with subatomic particles.

Has there been experiments to confirm time dilation w/o the use
of particles?
(Maybe like a computer program syncing and calculating
the time in and out of the gravity well or at different elevations
over a long period of time? I know most if not all Satellites
use atomic clocks as well which would involve subatomic particles.)

I do not doubt that the math involved in confirming the results
are correct but is it possible that gravity or velocity or something else is
having effects on the subatomic particles causing the above
mentioned experiments to be inaccurate?

Inaccurate may not be the right word,
but causing the variables to be different
from what we perceive them to be?

Thanks for any info you can provide me.

Steven K

 

[jedishrfu]

particles are very fundamental. A computer actually is composed of and relies on particles to operate so having the computer demonstrate time dilation is akin to demonstrating it via particles. GPS satellites have embedded computers which exhibit the time dilation effect and so corrective timing is required to keep them in sync.

 

[Dale]

All the experiments that have been done,
muons, atomic clocks in jets, ect
All of these involve measuring time with subatomic particles.

This is incorrect. Atomic clocks don't measure time with subatomic particles, they measure time with atoms.

How big a clock is simply isn't relevant. All that is relevant is whether or not the law of physics which governs the clock is Lorentz violating or not.

Atomic clocks prove that EM based clocks time dilate. Astronomical observations prove that gravity based clocks time dilate. Muon observations prove that weak-force based clocks time dilate. Kaon observations prove that strong-force based clocks time dilate. There is nothing left, all possible clocks based on any known mechanism time dilate.

 

[John232]

Even with the atomic clocks, relativity hasn't been tested that accurately because the effects of the theory only affect time scales that the atomic clocks themselves can hardly read at velocities we normally experience.

 

[DaveC426913]

This doesn't prove or disprove your case (since it uses atomic clocks), but it is an awesome example of human-scale amateur-accessible relativity.

http://leapsecond.com/great2005/tour/

This guy took his whole family up to the top of Mt.Ranier along with some atomic clocks to show how real GR time dilation is.

 

[Dale]

Even with the atomic clocks, relativity hasn't been tested that accurately because the effects of the theory only affect time scales that the atomic clocks themselves can hardly read at velocities we normally experience.

Nonsense. Modern atomic clocks are precise enough to measure gravitational time dilation on the scale of 33 cm and velocity time dilation at 20 mph. Furthermore, we can accelerate particles very close to c and observe their behavior in the lab. Relativity has been tested that accurately.

 

[nitsuj]

That is flippin' wild! 33cm & 20mph. I've always thought my feet looked younger than my hands .

 

[salvestrom]

Nonsense. Modern atomic clocks are precise enough to measure gravitational time dilation on the scale of 33 cm and velocity time dilation at 20 mph. Furthermore, we can accelerate particles very close to c and observe their behavior in the lab. Relativity has been tested that accurately.

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