Confusion with open set and a subset of R2

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The discussion centers on proving that the subset S = (a1, b1) × (a2, b2) of the Euclidean space R² is an open set. Participants clarify that (a1, b1) and (a2, b2) represent open intervals on the real number line, and the Cartesian product notation indicates a set of tuples (x1, x2) where x1 is in (a1, b1) and x2 is in (a2, b2). The confusion arises from the overlap between vector notation and interval notation, emphasizing the need for clarity in mathematical definitions.

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Using the definition of an open set, prove that the subset [itex]S = \left({a}_{1}, {b}_{1}\right)\times \left({a}_{2}, {b}_{2}\right)[/itex] of the Euclidean space [itex]{R}^{2}[/itex] is open.

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I so far don't have much of an attempt, as I am merely trying to figure out what the question is asking. If I interpret the (a1, b1) x (a2, b2) as two vectors on a plane then S would be a vector pointing outwards from the plane? Which doesn't seem like an open set in R2 to me.

I am not looking for a solution, but looking for a clarification of the question in mind.

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(a1, a2) is an open interval on the real number line, just like in high school or calculus.

here, the X refers to the cartesian product. so (a1, b1) X (a2, b2) is the set that consists of tuples1 (x1, x2) where x1 is in (a1, b1) and x2 is in (a2, b2). There is an unfortunate overlap of notation between vector/tuple notation and the notation for intervals.

In symbols and for general sets:

[tex]S_{1} \times S_{2} = \left{\{ (a, b) : a \in S_{1}, b \in S_{2} \right}\}[/tex]1 - tuples are essentially vectors but with no necessarily assumed linear structure
 
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Thank you very much!
 

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