MHB Connecting linear algebra concepts to groups

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The discussion centers on determining the correct relationship among linear algebra concepts related to groups, specifically focusing on the properties of determinants. Participants consider three options, ultimately leaning towards the identity det(AB) = det(A)det(B) due to its relevance to group homomorphisms. There is a debate about the certainty of this choice, with one participant expressing caution despite a strong inclination towards this answer. The conversation highlights the importance of verifying mathematical properties in the context of group theory. Ultimately, the consensus is that det(AB) = det(A)det(B) aligns with the definition of a group homomorphism.
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The options are
$$rank(B)+null(B)=n$$
$$tr(ABA^{−1})=tr(B)$$
$$det(AB)=det(A)det(B)$$

I'm thinking that since it's invertible, I would focus on the determinant =/= 0. I believe the first option is out, because null (B) would be 0 which won't be helpful. The second option makes the point that $$AA^{−1}$$ is $$I$$, so it's suggesting invertibility. So I'm deciding between the second and last option. Does anyone have any tips?
 
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Since the problem specifically refers to "the map defined by taking determinants", I would almost automatically check "det(AB)= det(A)det(B)"! "Almost" because, of course, I would want to make sure it was correct.
 
Country Boy said:
Since the problem specifically refers to "the map defined by taking determinants", I would almost automatically check "det(AB)= det(A)det(B)"! "Almost" because, of course, I would want to make sure it was correct.

Agree, I was tempted to select det(AB)= det(A)det(B) but then again I can't be fully sure.

I guess since we both believe it to be correct, I guess I'm going for this answer then!
 
I didn't say I believe it to be correct! I said I would "almost" automatically check it. And I said "of course, I would want to make sure it was correct". Why can't you "be fully sure"?
 
Country Boy said:
I didn't say I believe it to be correct! I said I would "almost" automatically check it. And I said "of course, I would want to make sure it was correct". Why can't you "be fully sure"?

Good point! My gut feeling just told me that the determinant is the answer but my brain told me to be careful.
 
Let's take a closer look, and let's start with the crucial bit of information that we need: what is the definition of a group homomorphism?
 
Hi Klaas, indeed, it is det(AB) = det(A)det(B) because as per the definition of group homomorphism, φ (G) = H if φ (xy) = φ (x) φ (y)
 

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