Cons. of momentum: person moves at angle atop free-to-move cart

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The discussion focuses on calculating the new velocity of a cart when a student walks on it at an angle. The student has a mass of 63 kg, and the cart has a mass of 34 kg, with an initial velocity of 3.2 m/s [W]. When the student walks at 1.8 m/s [25 degrees W of N], the final velocity of the cart is determined to be approximately 8.31 m/s [21.4 S of E]. However, a correction indicates that the angle should be 21.4 degrees S of W, confirming the calculations using both vector components and imaginary numbers.

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Homework Statement


A 63kg student stands on 34kg cart that is free to move in any direction. The cart and student are moving together with a velocity of 3.2 m/s [W]. The student then starts to walk so that her velocity is 1.8 m/s [25 degrees W of N] relative to the floor. Calculate the new velocity of the cart.

mass of student = mg = 63kg
mass of cart = mc = 34kg
velocity of system = vs = 3.2 m/s [W]
velocity of student = vg = 1.8 m/s [25 W of N]
velocity of cart = ?

Homework Equations


p=p'

The Attempt at a Solution


[PLAIN]http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4709/momdia.jpg

let 's' represent the system
the final momentum of the system is equal to the vector addition of the student (g) and the cart (c)
ps'= pc' +pg'
rearrange to find pc':
pc'=ps'-pg'

ps=ps'
=(mg+mc)vs
=310.4 kg * m/s [W]

-pg'=63(1.8)
=113.4 kg * m/s [25 E of S]
now using components:
[PLAIN]http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/2365/diamom.jpg

-pgx'=63(1.8)sin25
=47.3249 kg * m/s [E]
-pgy'=63(1.8)cos25
=102.78 kg * m/s

using Pythagorus
pc'^2=pgy'^2 + [ps' + (-pgx)]^2
pc'=282.439 kg * m/s

to find direction of pc':
angle =tan-1(102.78 / 262.475)
= 21.38 degrees

therefor the new velocity of the cart is:
vc'=pc'/mc
= 8.31 m/s [21.4 S of E]

am i wrong? that answer seems unlikely...
 
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strangeeyes said:
= 8.31 m/s [21.4 S of E]

am i wrong? that answer seems unlikely...

I think the angle should be 21.4 degrees S of W.

Let's solve it a different way, using imaginary numbers. East and West are along the usual real number line, North and South lie on the + and - imaginary axis.

Mp = person mass = 63 kg
Mc = cart mass = 34 kg

The initial velocity of both person and cart is

v = -3.2 m/s

The momentum is then

p = (63kg + 34kg)*v = -310.4 kg*m/s

The person starts walking at an angle that's 25 degrees West of North. That's 90 + 25 = 115 degrees. His speed is 1.8 m/s, So,

vp = 1.8 m/s * (cos(115) + i*sin(115))

vp = (-0.761 + 1.131i) m/s

Conservation of momentum gives us

p = Mp*vp + Mc*vc

solving for vc yields

vc = (p - Mp*vp)/Mc
vc = (-7.72 -3.023i) m/s

|vc| = 8.291 m/s

arg(vc) = -158.617 deg

That's 21.383 degrees South of West
 
makes sense! thanks so much.
 

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