Conservation of Angular Momentum: angular speed

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The problem involves a student on a rotating stool holding dumbbells, examining the conservation of angular momentum as the student changes the position of the dumbbells relative to the axis of rotation. The subject area is angular momentum and rotational dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss calculating the moment of inertia of the dumbbells in different positions and how it contributes to the overall moment of inertia. There is also a question about whether to model the dumbbells as a rod or use point mass approximations for calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with various approaches being explored. Some participants are questioning the assumptions made about the moment of inertia and the modeling of the dumbbells, while others suggest simpler methods for calculating the moment of inertia.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the moment of inertia being constant for the stool and student, which may affect how the problem is approached. Participants are also grappling with the implications of integrating versus using simplified models for the dumbbells.

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Homework Statement


A student sits on a freely rotating stool holding 2 3.00kg dumbbells. When the students arms are extended horizontally the dumbbells are 1.00m from the axis of rotation and the student rotates with an angular speed of 0.750 rad/sec. The moment of inertia of the student and the stool is 3.00 kgm2 and it is assumed to be constant. The student pulls the dumbbells in to a position 0.300m from the rotation axis. What is the new angular speed?


Homework Equations


I was going to try Ii[tex]\omega[/tex]i=If[tex]\omega[/tex]f but the problem with this is that the problem says I is constant at 3.00 kgm2. I assume that I need to factor in the radius somehow but I'm not sure how to do it.


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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When the dumbells are at 1m, what is the moment of inertia of them?

Add that to the inertia of the stool and you have the initial moment of inertia.

initial angular momentum = Iinitialωinitial.


When the dumbells are at 0.3m, what is the moment of inertia then? (Add this to get inertia of the stool to get the final moment of inertia)
 
So can I model the dumbbells as a rod and use 1/12 ML2 as the moment of inertia or do I have to integrate [tex]\int[/tex][tex]\rho[/tex]dV? I am facing problems with both ways, I don't know what the volume would be if I integrate, and it seems like modeling as a rod would not be correct.
 
mickellowery said:
So can I model the dumbbells as a rod and use 1/12 ML2 as the moment of inertia or do I have to integrate [tex]\int[/tex][tex]\rho[/tex]dV? I am facing problems with both ways, I don't know what the volume would be if I integrate, and it seems like modeling as a rod would not be correct.

No need to do all of that. Just treat them as point masses such that I=mr2
 

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