Conservation of angular momentum under central forces

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

In the discussion on the conservation of angular momentum under central forces, participants confirmed that angular momentum is conserved when the force is central. The equations for radial momentum, ##p=m\dot r = ma\dot \theta=ma\omega##, and angular momentum, ##L=mr^2\dot\theta = ma^2\omega^3 t^2##, were analyzed. It was established that while linear momentum remains constant, angular momentum can be time-dependent due to the influence of tangential velocity. The total linear momentum was expressed as ##p_{\text{tot}}=m(\dot r+r\dot\theta )=m(a\omega + a\omega^2 t)##, emphasizing the need to consider both radial and tangential components.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of central forces in physics
  • Familiarity with angular momentum and its mathematical representation
  • Knowledge of linear momentum and its conservation laws
  • Basic calculus, including the chain rule
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation of angular momentum equations in central force motion
  • Learn about the relationship between tangential and radial velocities in circular motion
  • Explore the implications of non-central forces on momentum conservation
  • Investigate the use of vector addition for momentum components
USEFUL FOR

Students of physics, particularly those focusing on mechanics, educators teaching angular momentum concepts, and researchers examining the effects of central forces on motion.

Saptarshi Sarkar
Messages
98
Reaction score
13
Homework Statement
If a particle moves outward in a plane along a curved trajectory described by ##r=a\theta##, where ##\theta=\omega t##, where ##a## and ##\omega## are constants, then its

a) kinetic energy is conserved
b) angular momentum is conserved
c) total momentum is conserved
d) radial momentum is conserved
Relevant Equations
##p=m\dot r##
##L=mr^2\dot \theta##
I know that the force must be a central force and that under central forces, angular momentum is conserved. But I am unable to mathematically show if the angular and linear momentum are constants.

Radial Momentum
##p=m\dot r = ma\dot \theta=ma\omega##

Angular Momentum
##L=mr^2\dot\theta = ma^2\omega^3 t^2##

I am not sure if I am supposed to use the chain rule here, but I am getting a conserved linear momentum but a time-dependent angular momentum.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Saptarshi Sarkar said:
##p=m\dot r = ma\dot \theta=ma\omega##

Angular Momentum
##L=mr^2\dot\theta = ma^2\omega^3 t^2##

I am not sure if I am supposed to use the chain rule here, but I am getting a conserved linear momentum but a time-dependent angular momentum.
Isn't that the answer for ##L##?

For the other part, are you looking for radial momentum or total linear momentum?
 
PeroK said:
Isn't that the answer for ##L##?

For the other part, are you looking for radial momentum or total linear momentum?

I was thinking that the angular momentum must be independent of time as it looks like a trajectory under a central force. Is it not true?

For the other part, I did a mistake. Thanks for pointing it out. I need to consider the tangential velocity as well.

Total linear momentum = ##p_{\text{tot}}=m(\dot r+r\dot\theta )=m(a\omega + a\omega^2 t)##

So, d should be the answer?
 
Saptarshi Sarkar said:
I was thinking that the angular momentum must be independent of time as it looks like a trajectory under a central force. Is it not true?

For the other part, I did a mistake. Thanks for pointing it out. I need to consider the tangential velocity as well.

Total linear momentum = ##p_{\text{tot}}=m(\dot r+r\dot\theta )=m(a\omega + a\omega^2 t)##

So, d should be the answer?
Yes. It's not a central force. You can calculate the acceleration if you want to. It won't be in the radial direction.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Saptarshi Sarkar
Saptarshi Sarkar said:
Total linear momentum = ##p_{\text{tot}}=m(\dot r+r\dot\theta )=m(a\omega + a\omega^2 t)##
The two components are perpendicular to each other. You can't just add them together as scalars.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: PhDeezNutz

Similar threads

Replies
17
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 71 ·
3
Replies
71
Views
3K
Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
335
Views
16K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
67
Views
4K