Conservation of Angular Momentum

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The discussion revolves around a scenario involving conservation of angular momentum, specifically in the context of regaining balance while tilting off a cliff. Participants are exploring the implications of arm movement and external forces on angular momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are debating whether rotating arms forwards or backwards helps regain balance, with some expressing confusion over the reasoning behind the suggested direction. Questions about the principles at play and the effects of external torque from wind and gravity are also raised.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their interpretations and questioning the assumptions made in the problem. Some have pointed out the role of external forces and torque, suggesting that these factors complicate the conservation of angular momentum in this scenario.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing debate about the effects of external torque and the conditions under which angular momentum is conserved. Participants are also considering the implications of a "sudden gust" of wind and its transient nature on the overall dynamics of the situation.

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Homework Statement


Imagine that you are standing on the edge of a cliff looking out over the vista… a sudden gust of wind nudges you off balance and you start tilting out over the edge of the cliff…. Yikes! You start wind milling your arms to regain your balance. A) do you rotate your arms forwards or backwards (to help you regain your balance)? B) What principle are you using in this case? C) Should you rotate your arms quickly or slowly (and why)?

Homework Equations


N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


A. I believe that the answer should be backwards so that it would cancel out the forward rotation of your body however the solution sheet for this question says it is forward. I do not understand how it could be forward because it seems to me like this would just make you fall off the cliff.

I understand B and C
 
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Katie Morton said:

Homework Statement


Imagine that you are standing on the edge of a cliff looking out over the vista… a sudden gust of wind nudges you off balance and you start tilting out over the edge of the cliff…. Yikes! You start wind milling your arms to regain your balance. A) do you rotate your arms forwards or backwards (to help you regain your balance)? B) What principle are you using in this case? C) Should you rotate your arms quickly or slowly (and why)?

Homework Equations


N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


A. I believe that the answer should be backwards so that it would cancel out the forward rotation of your body however the solution sheet for this question says it is forward. I do not understand how it could be forward because it seems to me like this would just make you fall off the cliff.

I understand B and C

Angular momentum is not going to get your centre of gravity back behind the edge of the cliff. So, what will?
 
Angular momentum won't be conserved because there is external torque acting on you by wind and gravity.
 
Buffu said:
Angular momentum won't be conserved because there is external torque acting on you by wind and gravity.

It says a "sudden gust", so the wind has no ongoing effect. And, angular momentum about your centre of gravity will not be affected by gravity.

There's a force missing here!
 

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