Conservation of Energy and Angular Momentum in a Satellite Breakup

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the conservation of energy and angular momentum in the context of a satellite breaking into two parts. The satellite, initially in a circular orbit, experiences a failure that causes it to split into two equal masses, and participants are tasked with analyzing the resulting energy and angular momentum of the fragments.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the velocities of the satellite's parts and question the conservation of angular momentum in the context of their motion. There are discussions about the velocities in different frames of reference and the implications for total energy calculations.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the velocities of the satellite parts and their implications for energy and angular momentum. Some participants express uncertainty about the relationship between the original and radial velocities, while others affirm the conservation principles at play.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the definitions of the velocities involved, particularly between the original tangential velocity and the radial velocity of the parts after the breakup. Participants are also considering the implications of these definitions on the calculations of energy and angular momentum.

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Hi,

Homework Statement


A satellite with mass m orbits a planet of mass M in a circular path with radius r and velocity v. Due to some internal technical failure, the satellite breaks into two, similar parts with mass m/2 each. In the satellite's frame of reference, it appears the two parts move radially, in opposite directions, along the line connecting the original satellite and the planet's center, each with velocity v0/2. I am expected to show that right after the technical failure, each of the two parts has a total energy equal to -3GM/16r and angular momentum equal to (m/2)√(GMr), wrt the planet's center.


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The total energy of each of the two parts should be, I believe: Etot = mv02/16 - GmM/(2r). Now, isn't angular momentum preserved despite the failure? However, why isn't the angular momentum zero if the two parts are moving in opposite directions?
 
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hi peripatein! :smile:
peripatein said:
Now, isn't angular momentum preserved despite the failure?

yes :smile:
However, why isn't the angular momentum zero if the two parts are moving in opposite directions?

you're misreading the question …

they are moving in opposite directions in the rest-frame of the satellite

imagine a rod moving sideways, and two beads moving with equal speeds away from each other along it …

the actual motions of the beads are both diagonally forwards :wink:
 
The velocity of the the CoM remains v, right? And I know that wrt that CoM, each part moves at +-v0/2, right? Ergo, the velocity of each part wrt to the planet's center should be the sum of the CoM's velocity (which I know) and the velocity of the respective part wrt the CoM (which I also know), correct?
 
yes.
 
Don't I need some sort of relation between v and v0? I am unable to obtain that through conservation of angular momentum though.
 
i think vo and v are suposed to be the same
 
tiny-tim said:
i think vo and v are suposed to be the same

No. v is the original tangential velocity. v0 is the radial velocity with which the two move apart.
 
peripatein said:
The total energy of each of the two parts should be, I believe: Etot = mv02/16 - GmM/(2r).
They also have the KE of the original tangential velocity, v.
 
tiny-tim said:
i think vo and v are suposed to be the same
haruspex said:
No. v is the original tangential velocity. v0 is the radial velocity with which the two move apart.

i think vo and v are supposed to be the same :smile:
 
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tiny-tim said:
i think vo and v are supposed to be the same :smile:
Ah, you mean equal, which is not quite the same as same :biggrin:.
 

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