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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the conservation of energy during a rockslide. The scenario includes a rock sliding down a hillside with specific dimensions and a coefficient of kinetic friction, prompting questions about gravitational potential energy, thermal energy, and kinetic energy at the bottom of the hill.

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  • Participants discuss calculating gravitational potential energy and the relationship between gravitational energy and thermal energy due to friction. There are attempts to determine the friction force and questions about the nature of acceleration during the slide.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem setup. Some have identified potential misunderstandings regarding the dimensions of the hill and the application of physics principles, while others are seeking clarification on how to calculate forces involved.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for solving the problem. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationships between energy forms and forces acting on the rock.

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During a rockslide, a 340 kg rock slides from rest down a hillside that is 500 m long and 300 m high. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the rock and the hill surface is 0.24.

(a) If the gravitational potential energy U of the rock-Earth system is set to zero at the bottom of the hill, what is the value of U just before the slide?

(b) How much energy is transferred to thermal energy during the slide?

(c) What is the kinetic energy of the rock as it reaches the bottom of the hill?

(d) What is its speed then?

For letter a i found the gravitational potential energy using the formula Eg=mgy. This gave me 999600 J. I'm not sure how to find the thermal energy though, i thought that i could just multiply the gravitational energy by the coefficient of friction, but that didn't work.
 
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Hi brittkub1291! :smile:
brittkub1291 said:
During a rockslide, a 340 kg rock slides from rest down a hillside that is 500 m long and 300 m high. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the rock and the hill surface is 0.24.

(b) How much energy is transferred to thermal energy during the slide?

I'm not sure how to find the thermal energy though, i thought that i could just multiply the gravitational energy by the coefficient of friction, but that didn't work.

Nooo … :frown:

Thermal energy is heat. What generates heat :rolleyes:? Friction! :rolleyes:

So the thermal energy is the work done by the friction force. :smile:
 
Okay, i tried finding the friction force by using F=ma but i don't know if acceleration is constant or not.
 
brittkub1291 said:
Okay, i tried finding the friction force by using F=ma but i don't know if acceleration is constant or not.

uhh?

Kinetic friction force = normal force times µk
 
Yeah, i just realized that. So the normal force is mgcos(x), the friction force should just be (.24)(mgcos(x)) right? It keeps coming out wrong. When the question say the hill is 500 m long would that be the hypotenuse of the triangle? I was thinking that it wouldn't be..
 
brittkub1291 said:
During a rockslide, a 340 kg rock slides from rest down a hillside that is 500 m long and 300 m high.

I don't see what else it can mean … high is vertically, so what can long be if it isn't the hypotenuse?
 
Okay, i got it. I just was doing the problem as if they gave me the height and the length, and i used pathagoreans theorem to find the hypotenuse so it was making my answers wrong.
 

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