Conservation of relativistic momentum

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The discussion centers on the conservation of relativistic momentum, specifically addressing the correct representation of momentum components before and after a collision. Participants emphasize the importance of accurately calculating the denominator in the relativistic momentum formula, which is defined as ##\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}##. The conversation highlights the necessity of including both x and y components of velocity in the calculations. Additionally, there is a clarification that velocity does not adhere to conservation laws in general collisions, prompting a request for further specification of the intended demonstration.

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Homework Statement
Given a collision, I have to verify that the y component of the collision remains the same in the given reference frames(photos are attached) which differ only by x components of velocity(berkeley physics course pg 375)
Relevant Equations
P=Mv/(1-v^2/c^2)
TM = total momentum
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Before the collision, particle 1 has a negative y'-component of momentum. But it looks like you wrote it as having a positive y'-component. Similarly, check your signs for after the collision.

In the definition of relativistic momentum, the denominator is ##\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2} = \sqrt{1-\left(v_x^2+v_y^2\right)/c^2}##.
In the primed frame, this is ##\sqrt{1-{v '}^2/c^2} = \sqrt{1-\left({v_x '}^2+{v_y '}^2 \right)/c^2}##. So, for particle 1 in the primed frame you need to include ##{v_x '}^2## as well as ##{v_y '}^2## in the denominator.
 
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Yeah you're right about the signs. But what if I want to show only for the y component if the velocity is conserved?
 
VVS2000 said:
Yeah you're right about the signs. But what if I want to show only for the y component if the velocity is conserved?
It's not clear to me what you are trying to show. Velocity is not something that obeys a conservation law in general collisions. Can you describe precisely what you want to show?
 

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