Conservation of relativistic momentum

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The discussion revolves around the conservation of relativistic momentum in the context of particle collisions, specifically focusing on the components of momentum before and after the collision.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are examining the signs of momentum components and questioning the conservation of velocity in collisions. There is a focus on the relativistic definition of momentum and its implications for different frames of reference.

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Some participants have pointed out potential errors in sign conventions and are seeking clarification on the implications of these signs. There is an ongoing exploration of whether velocity can be treated as conserved in this context, with requests for further explanation on the intended demonstration.

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There appears to be confusion regarding the conservation laws applicable to velocity in collisions, as well as the specific conditions under which relativistic momentum is defined.

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Given a collision, I have to verify that the y component of the collision remains the same in the given reference frames(photos are attached) which differ only by x components of velocity(berkeley physics course pg 375)
Relevant Equations
P=Mv/(1-v^2/c^2)
TM = total momentum
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Before the collision, particle 1 has a negative y'-component of momentum. But it looks like you wrote it as having a positive y'-component. Similarly, check your signs for after the collision.

In the definition of relativistic momentum, the denominator is ##\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2} = \sqrt{1-\left(v_x^2+v_y^2\right)/c^2}##.
In the primed frame, this is ##\sqrt{1-{v '}^2/c^2} = \sqrt{1-\left({v_x '}^2+{v_y '}^2 \right)/c^2}##. So, for particle 1 in the primed frame you need to include ##{v_x '}^2## as well as ##{v_y '}^2## in the denominator.
 
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Yeah you're right about the signs. But what if I want to show only for the y component if the velocity is conserved?
 
VVS2000 said:
Yeah you're right about the signs. But what if I want to show only for the y component if the velocity is conserved?
It's not clear to me what you are trying to show. Velocity is not something that obeys a conservation law in general collisions. Can you describe precisely what you want to show?
 

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